We have removed ANY 2.4 on our network and let it be the indoor useful
IOT access for all.
Urban areas is just to high for 2.4 in general.
3.65 pmp450 has brought us mucho success in this area and the newest 900
450i rocks. I just need those KP higher gain cpe Ant to get a little
deeper distance from the tower.
We have a few customers on new 900 running 17-20 Mbs through the
thickest crap around 3 mile out some less than this but with a little
more cpe gain we will get this.
With the dense urban area we have there is no way I could use epmp at my
dense tower locations or ubnt for that matter. I do however have about
15 subs on a single epmp AP in an area that does fine with 10Mbx10Mb
service rate.
The coolest thing about that site is that it has 2 epmp panels back to
back on same channel using the gps sync working great.
On 06/02/2016 05:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I can only warn you that you'll have a very angry set of customers.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've been meaning to do a direct comparison between the two, by
swapping one of our UBNT 2.4ghz APs to an ePMP and keeping the
exact same antennas and everything else... I just need to figure
out where I can do it that's going to give me some useful
information and not make too many customers angry.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I do not believe we have had both on the same tower. We had
diverted to doing epmp 2.4 not long after it came out as we
had lots of problems with ESD on ubnt 2.4 rockets. Changed
some things and they are surviving storms much better.
Tests near EPMP vs. tests on other towers (3 miles away? -
totally same environment) just revealed in dramatically
different results. Not as much speed, maybe, but at least
we're getting a usable signal up to a mile or two away. With
epmp we're lucky to get a mile way.
Understand we are in THICK tree country. 900 is still our
primary product
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mathew Howard <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 4:31 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
But does it actually perform worse that UBNT 2.4ghz on the
same link, or is it maybe just differences in how they
calculate signal levels? It doesn't make any sense that
two different radios running on the same frequency putting
the same amount of power into the same antennas would give
significantly different signal levels...
The closest thing I've done to a comparison was playing
with a Force 200 2.4ghz in wifi mode... there didn't seem
to be a significant difference between it and a PowerBeam
connecting to the same AP.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200
2.4, integrated + reflector for CPEs. Continues to suck.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I’m thinking more the CPE antennas.
*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt
we're using kp performance. With epmp, i think it
is bundled antennas...
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing
may be mainly in the antennas. 2.4 GHz from
any vendor should penetrate the same, the
radio waves don’t care what brand radio
launched them. And I think the difference
between the platforms will be most evident in
low interference environment where they can
achieve their full modulation and throughput.
With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like
arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off road
racing, neither will be able to show off its
capabilities. Receiver sensitivity and
bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.
*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
Also interested in interference rejection of
the pmp450 - is there any (in 2.4)
we are getting better foliage penetration with
ubnt 2.4 than epmp 2.4 - - and from the
performance of
the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated
better!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Matt
<mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM
*Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.
Some Ubiquiti we tried and
some we inherited as well. Have some ePMP
we have tested but so far
have not deployed more then couple test links.
For those who have tried both ePMP and
PMP450 what are the differences
you have seen in performance? Interference
tolerance among others?
For those that have gone with PMP450 over
ePMP what was the reasoning?
