It absolutely does perform worse on the same link, we just helped a friend move an entire site from UBNT to epmp to make use of the sync capabilities. We actually had to transfer about 15% of the customers to 900 because they would not work at all on epmp.

On 6/2/2016 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
But does it actually perform worse that UBNT 2.4ghz on the same link, or is it maybe just differences in how they calculate signal levels? It doesn't make any sense that two different radios running on the same frequency putting the same amount of power into the same antennas would give significantly different signal levels...

The closest thing I've done to a comparison was playing with a Force 200 2.4ghz in wifi mode... there didn't seem to be a significant difference between it and a PowerBeam connecting to the same AP.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200 2.4, integrated
    + reflector for CPEs.  Continues to suck.


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    On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I’m thinking more the CPE antennas.
        *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
        hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using
        kp performance. With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas...

            ----- Original Message -----
            *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
            Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be mainly
            in the antennas. 2.4 GHz from any vendor should penetrate
            the same, the radio waves don’t care what brand radio
            launched them.  And I think the difference between the
            platforms will be most evident in low interference
            environment where they can achieve their full modulation
            and throughput.  With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like
            arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off road racing, neither
            will be able to show off its capabilities.  Receiver
            sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.
            *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
            Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450  -
            is there any (in 2.4)
            we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4
            than epmp 2.4 - - and from the performance of
            the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better!

                ----- Original Message -----
                *From:* Matt <mailto:[email protected]>
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM
                *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
                We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.  Some
                Ubiquiti we tried and
                some we inherited as well. Have some ePMP we have
                tested but so far
                have not deployed more then couple test links.

                For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are
                the differences
                you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance
                among others?

                For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what
                was the reasoning?




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