If you buy one and get it licensed before it is EOL, will they continue to
license it after they EOL it?

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You can, but they charge full price for the license, and you should be
> very careful to ensure the box is not EOL (they won't license EOL boxes.)
>
> If you are looking at one, I can check it out for you and let you know. If
> you can someone find a non-EOL box at a good price, it can be worth it, but
> I've seen a lot of people burned buying old, used boxes and trying to
> license them.
>
> On 6/21/2016 11:09 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in seeing if you could buy a used one and then get a new
> license for it.
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> I have the lowest Procera model which is the 7340 model which will do
>> 1gbps. It was around $18,000 which included first year of signature updates
>> which is like $2500/year. Bought it through Powercode. I checked on ebay
>> and there always seems to be some used Proceras on there.
>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/Computers-Tablets-Networking/58058/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=procera
>>
>> I wonder if they will let you buy a used one and then put a current
>> license on one. If so the cost to get into one would be drastically lower
>> than what I paid for a much more powerfull unit.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Daniel Gerlach <
>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> which Procera are you using and what is the market price ? Thx Daniel
>>>
>>> 2016-06-21 5:49 GMT+02:00 Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> I actually got comments from customers saying the network was running
>>>> smoother once I put rules in the Procera to limit streaming, updates, etc.
>>>> Biggest benefit is they can't max the connection out with any 1 service
>>>> which allows them to do huge Apple updates while still watching Netflix.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " the whole limit per customer thing because of title 2 stuff."
>>>>>
>>>>> Please try to gain a better and clear understanding of the Regulatory
>>>>> Rules and Requirements...
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't say, you cannot do it... They say you have to disclose up
>>>>> front what you do, and you have to do it across the board.... i.e. you
>>>>> cannot discriminate between streaming from one provider vs another content
>>>>> provider...or for one customer and not for another...  it is perfectly ok
>>>>> to regulate, limit, police/policy video streaming, you just need to
>>>>> disclose it....
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>>>>
>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *"David Milholen" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>>>> *To: * <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, June 20, 2016 10:44:45 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities
>>>>>
>>>>> Ive been on the fence about doing the whole limit per customer thing
>>>>> because of title 2 stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> But from what I understand you just cant charge the content provider
>>>>> for a faster pipe into your network. I could have it wrong but I have to 
>>>>> do
>>>>> what I need to
>>>>>
>>>>> smooth out the traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/20/2016 5:13 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't you just get a Procera in?
>>>>>
>>>>> Limit amount of total streaming media per customer IP to whatever you
>>>>> feel is necessary. It actually helps the overall experience of the 
>>>>> customer
>>>>> as video won't max out their entire connection. Do the same with software
>>>>> updates like Apple, Microsoft, Xbox, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:07 PM, David < <[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, ALL of the BORG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need some insight on what I should do.
>>>>>>  Currently a majority of our network is routed,static and ospf.
>>>>>> We keep a good lock down on our edge routers for bad stuff but
>>>>>> I am looking to prioritize traffic based on three groups.
>>>>>> Voice,Video and Data.
>>>>>> So my question is how should I prioritize Video?
>>>>>> A. Limit per customer account
>>>>>> B  Limit per Customer Device
>>>>>> C. No Limit free for all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each customer has a QOS limitation set by our radios with available
>>>>>> burst.
>>>>>> Most of these QOS limitations have no issue with most streaming
>>>>>> customers but we have the
>>>>>> occasional larger family the blows the top off the larger QOS package
>>>>>> we have.
>>>>>> It got me to thinking about traffic priority levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently we cannot support a 4k stream unless we give them a PTP
>>>>>> link or have an Access point all to themselves.
>>>>>> We make it clear that we do not support streams over 20Mbs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the best approach for such a mess LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Darin Steffl
>>>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>>> <http://www.mnwifi.com/>www.mnwifi.com
>>>>> 507-634-WiFi
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>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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