They usually have a period where they stop selling it, but will continue
to license it for existing customers. It varies.
For example, the PL8820 was just EOLed and replaced by the 8840
(https://www.proceranetworks.com/products/platforms/pl8000) - however,
they are selling the remaining 8820s off cheap, and you can continue to
license them for a few years. I've sold a few, because the discount over
the 8840 was significant enough that it made more sense to toss the box
in a few years when you'll probably need a bigger one anyway.
Generally, it is always case by case, but I can give you specific
details on any box you find. Bear in mind they are not overly
enthusiastic about licensing used boxes, so you are not going to get a
great deal on the licensing/support contract, but it can be done and is
sometimes worth it.
On 6/21/2016 11:57 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
If you buy one and get it licensed before it is EOL, will they
continue to license it after they EOL it?
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You can, but they charge full price for the license, and you
should be very careful to ensure the box is not EOL (they won't
license EOL boxes.)
If you are looking at one, I can check it out for you and let you
know. If you can someone find a non-EOL box at a good price, it
can be worth it, but I've seen a lot of people burned buying old,
used boxes and trying to license them.
On 6/21/2016 11:09 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing if you could buy a used one and then
get a new license for it.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Daniel,
I have the lowest Procera model which is the 7340 model which
will do 1gbps. It was around $18,000 which included first
year of signature updates which is like $2500/year. Bought it
through Powercode. I checked on ebay and there always seems
to be some used Proceras on there.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Computers-Tablets-Networking/58058/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=procera
I wonder if they will let you buy a used one and then put a
current license on one. If so the cost to get into one would
be drastically lower than what I paid for a much more
powerfull unit.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Daniel Gerlach
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
which Procera are you using and what is the market price
? Thx Daniel
2016-06-21 5:49 GMT+02:00 Kurt Fankhauser
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
I actually got comments from customers saying the
network was running smoother once I put rules in the
Procera to limit streaming, updates, etc. Biggest
benefit is they can't max the connection out with any
1 service which allows them to do huge Apple updates
while still watching Netflix.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
"the whole limit per customer thing because of
title 2 stuff."
Please try to gain a better and clear
understanding of the Regulatory Rules and
Requirements...
They don't say, you cannot do it... They say you
have to disclose up front what you do, and you
have to do it across the board.... i.e. you
cannot discriminate between streaming from one
provider vs another content provider...or for one
customer and not for another... it is perfectly
ok to regulate, limit, police/policy video
streaming, you just need to disclose it....
:)
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518>
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*From: *"David Milholen" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Monday, June 20, 2016 10:44:45 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities
Ive been on the fence about doing the whole
limit per customer thing because of title 2
stuff.
But from what I understand you just cant
charge the content provider for a faster pipe
into your network. I could have it wrong but
I have to do what I need to
smooth out the traffic.
On 6/20/2016 5:13 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Didn't you just get a Procera in?
Limit amount of total streaming media per
customer IP to whatever you feel is
necessary. It actually helps the overall
experience of the customer as video won't
max out their entire connection. Do the
same with software updates like Apple,
Microsoft, Xbox, etc.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:07 PM, David
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ok, ALL of the BORG
I need some insight on what I should do.
Currently a majority of our network
is routed,static and ospf.
We keep a good lock down on our edge
routers for bad stuff but
I am looking to prioritize traffic
based on three groups.
Voice,Video and Data.
So my question is how should I
prioritize Video?
A. Limit per customer account
B Limit per Customer Device
C. No Limit free for all.
Each customer has a QOS limitation
set by our radios with available burst.
Most of these QOS limitations have no
issue with most streaming customers
but we have the
occasional larger family the blows
the top off the larger QOS package we
have.
It got me to thinking about traffic
priority levels.
Currently we cannot support a 4k
stream unless we give them a PTP link
or have an Access point all to
themselves.
We make it clear that we do not
support streams over 20Mbs.
What is the best approach for such a
mess LOL
Thanks
Dave
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