If their product is the subscription service, they don't hesitate selling the 
subscription service. $2,500/year is better than $0/year. 

Okay, so then don't cover the hardware anymore, software only. They should sell 
software-only to anyone at any time. 

Procera has been around for 10 years? Hrm. I'da guessed four or five. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:29:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities 

Well, one of the things to bear in mind with Procera is that you are 
essentially buying the subscription service. Even though the box isn't cheap, 
the value of the product is really the subscription. One of the things that the 
support/subscription covers is next day air replacement on the hardware. So 
now, you bought some old beat up box off Ebay, and you want to put it under a 
support contract, and things get messy when the hardware fails. 

So, I understand their reluctance - but they will do it. I'm mostly just 
advising caution because it's a complex arrangement - you want to make sure the 
box isn't EOL, you need to make sure it works, that you can still get expansion 
cards for it, etc. Sometimes these boxes on eBay look like a good deal, but 
there is a lot of factors to look at before you buy it, it's not a simple 
purchase. That being said, there are some deals to be had, and I've helped 
people navigate it, but I've also had to give people bad news after they 
snapped up some 10 year old, EOL unit for a 'steal'. 


On 6/21/2016 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: 




I don't understand this mentality from some companies. I mean, someone bought 
this new, and may have at least hesitated if they knew that the resale value 
would immediately be zero. 


I guess at least they license used units. 



On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Simon Westlake < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

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Bear in mind they are not overly enthusiastic about licensing used boxes 




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