*not available to weird places that have beautiful weather all the time

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> good lord! in need to apply for that 2% cash back! we are pumping over
> $100k per month to our corp amex
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I like miles because I can’t spend them.  Dollars back I would spend and
>> then when I need to go to the UK to visit my daughter I have to cough up
>> the dough.
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:30 PM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>
>>
>> The Citi double cash is 2%.  I used to use it as my everyday spend card.
>>
>> I am having really good luck with chase ultimate rewards earning cards,
>> and also spg earning cards.  With the combination of the chase sapphire,
>> freedom,  and freedom unlimited cards for personal and chase ink,  I get
>> anywhere between 3% and 10% back in travel rewards (mostly hotels and an
>> occasional flight).   But this only works if you travel enough that you can
>> redeem for values over 2 cents per point.
>>
>> With the chase freedom and discover they have revolving bonus categories
>> which are 5x points (10% effectively).  We try to buy gift cards to
>> maximize this..  for instance,  we're currently watching movies using
>> theatre gift cards from the last time the rewards category was movie
>> theatres.
>>
>> Back to the question about whether it makes sense to run cards through
>> your own merchant account...  maybe if you're trying to meet a minimum
>> spend, or need a few miles to make a reward work,  but I sure can't see
>> this making sense on a regular basis.
>> On Jul 6, 2016 12:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What's the 2% personal card if I can ask?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does the 3% credit card processing fee ($300 on $10k) justify the miles
>>>> you will gain? How much is it to just "buy" the same amount of miles?
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds want to know. I use a 2% cashback on everything card
>>>> for ALL my personal expenses (groceries, gas, utility bills, cell phone
>>>> bill, food, car expenses, etc), and a different business card (also 2%
>>>> cashback on every single item) for all my business stuff. Then I just get
>>>> checks mailed to me about once a month for the rewards. The miles game
>>>> always seemed like a lot of work to track everything, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/6/2016 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> S Corp
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:07 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>>
>>>> Sole Proprietor? LLC or Corp?  If you are a structured org (llc,Corp)
>>>> and you have an invoice for said items then you should be ok.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Credit card kiting* refers to the use of one or more credit cards
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> to obtain cash and
>>>> purchasing power they do not have, or pay credit card
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> balances with the proceeds
>>>> of other cards. Unlike check kiting
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_kiting>, which is illegal under
>>>> nearly all circumstances, laws against credit card kiting are not
>>>> completely prohibitive of the practice, thereby allowing it to be done to
>>>> some degree. It is up to the banks to detect the practice and when
>>>> necessary, stop it.
>>>>
>>>> In order for prosecution to occur in a credit card kiting scheme, a
>>>> bank must prove intent to deceive.[1]
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card_kiting#cite_note-1> Eq seq
>>>> reference infers paying credit card minimum balances with credit card
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> proceeds is de facto
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto> evidence of deceit.
>>>>
>>>> It all will depend on your CC Processor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>> Remotely Located
>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>> 530-651-1736
>>>> 530-748-9608 Cell
>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I didn't think about the miles thing. I just didn't think they would
>>>>> care as they are still getting paid and you'll be out about 3% of the
>>>>> charge. The biggest charge I've run through my own cars was about $300. I
>>>>> know square used to hold funds over $1000 for some period...like 7 days or
>>>>> so? Maybe that is too long, but I seem to remember something like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From what came up a while ago you can do that no problem after
>>>>>> contacting the merchant but IPPay doesn't allow those shenanigans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am thinking of doing this for about $10K and really don’t want to
>>>>>>> get money or systems locked up.
>>>>>>> I can also run it through my ecommerce site and I have a quick books
>>>>>>> merchant account too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:50 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've run my own card on my own account before a couple of times for
>>>>>>> testing and for paying myself for something as well. I'm not sure they
>>>>>>> really care, but I haven't read the AUP in like 4 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cameron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This has been covered here before.  I am considering buying
>>>>>>>> something from my own company.  Have Jenny run my personal card on her
>>>>>>>> company square reader.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure if that violates any kind of AUP.  Hate to get her
>>>>>>>> merchant account shut down.  It is a woman owned business with her 
>>>>>>>> owning
>>>>>>>> more than half.  I don’t technically work there.  I am not on the 
>>>>>>>> payroll.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How risky is this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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