Long as they know the red light means it's work time!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:15 AM, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ah yeah forgot about the Pi Ive been using audrino for my hobby projects.
> I need to get one and give it a try.
>  Ill have to get one at my home to.. Im sure that will drive the family
> nuts LOL
>
>
> On 08/01/2016 08:59 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Classify what gets the red light treatment.  (Giggity)
>
> Then you can use PagerDuty to make it sms/call with their API, or
> literally a Pi and a red light on the wall, or simply an email.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:53 AM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This is where we are now..
>> I had to get over some Chemically induced pneumonia first before I could
>> get back to it again so Ive been busy doing some automation reporting.
>> I need to get some more of Forrests Site monitors and some AC current
>> transducers for watching the lighting systems on a few more of our towers.
>> Thank goodness for cacti for consolidating all this stuff and
>> loganalyzer.
>>
>> What I need now is to get an alarm system in my office or a big red light
>> that comes on when a critical alarm hits on these reports.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/31/2016 10:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Lots of good points here. I think when I sold mine bandwidth was about 8%
>> of my total expense.  Finally the last 3 yeasts we established a regular
>> test cycle for batteriesalong with writing the install date and last test
>> date. Really helps with outages.
>> I can't say how many timesan outage occurred and when I would dig deeper
>> the answer was "you were putting so much pressure on us to deploy i didn't
>> document or write up the monitoring." I had to start inspecting and testing
>> the sites myself,which is really what I should have been doing all along.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Or lacks economies of scale.
>>>
>>> I was reading about Oracle buying NetSuite, and it mentioned that after
>>> Oracle bought PeopleSoft, they fired 5000 employees.
>>>
>>> Profits = revenues – expenses
>>>
>>> We tend to assume that if we take care of the top line, the bottom line
>>> will take care of itself.  I’m not arguing against that, just saying some
>>> of the big guys seem to find it easier to cut expenses.
>>>
>>> It doesn’t help that whenever someone “explains” the ISP business model,
>>> they simplify it to bandwidth costs a penny a gigabit, and everything else
>>> is profit.  So people don’t think about things like batteries at tower
>>> sites.  And it certainly is easier for big wired ISPs who can cherry pick
>>> their territories so they don’t have remote sites feeding 20 subscribers.
>>> It makes GPON sound attractive, put all the electronics in a nice building
>>> in town, and run passive fiber to the customers.
>>>
>>> In fairness, mobile carriers have remote cellsites which pretty much all
>>> have generators.
>>>
>>> The sin I’m most guilty of is putting battery backup at a site and then
>>> not implementing remote monitoring and alarming, so I don’t find out that I
>>> have to take out a portable generator until the site has been running on
>>> batteries for a day and they’ve run down.  The other thing with batteries
>>> is you’ll go 3 years without a power outage and then finally you have one
>>> and you didn’t replace the batteries and they fail.  So it’s necessary to
>>> regularly test the batteries or else replace them on a schedule.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:50 AM
>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whine whine whine whine
>>>
>>> a smaller company certainly has a smaller budget....
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:54 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whine whine whine whine
>>>
>>> The secret is to not let it bother you, or create systems and hire
>>> people that just ignore customer complaints.  At least that’s what some big
>>> ISPs with no competition do.  (Frontier, Centurylink)  I compare them to
>>> slum landlords who buy distressed properties and don’t spend a lot of money
>>> fixing them up or doing maintenance.  If people don’t like it, evict them
>>> and somebody else will take their place.  The churn costs less than fixing
>>> and upgrading the infrastructure, and ignoring the whining customers
>>> doesn’t cost anything if it’s part of your plan and you don’t lose sleep
>>> over it.  If you’re really clever, you build government subsidies into your
>>> business plan.
>>>
>>> It’s like if you sell your WISP to a big company, you probably imagine
>>> they will implement all the upgrades you couldn’t afford or didn’t get
>>> around to.  Probably not.  Once you stop losing sleep over customers saying
>>> bad things about you on Facebook, you spend only enough to keep the churn
>>> down to a tolerable percentage, the point where the cost of acquiring
>>> replacement customers starts to exceed what it would cost to fix the
>>> network.  Even with competition, inertia is a powerful force.  Some people
>>> will whine but not leave.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2016 6:19 PM
>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whine whine whine whine
>>>
>>>
>>> hahaha - that requires money!  i have to pay for my mafia...
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2016 6:11 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whine whine whine whine
>>>
>>>
>>> That's the fun of running an Internet provider, which a lot of people
>>> consider an "essential utility" these days. All you can do is add
>>> redundancy through more towers and more UPS capacity.
>>> On Jul 30, 2016 5:30 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> so i lost tower "b" yesterday during a storm.  not a bad loss,
>>>> actually.  water in a cable shorted out a power supply.
>>>> just happened to be the one backhaul link in.  i got it fixed about 2
>>>> pm?
>>>>
>>>> this morning about 11 am another round of storms took out the main
>>>> tower - tower "A " - power outage, i assume.  haven't been down there
>>>> yet.  (ok, it's four hours later, its probably not just a power outage)
>>>>
>>>> now i'm getting calls from customers on "B" that they haven't had
>>>> service in days.  I guess not, if they didn't use it from 3 pm yesterday
>>>> until 11 this morning.....uggh....
>>>>
>>>> correction - i don't take calls on weekends.  but they know me on
>>>> facebook....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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