Oh wait. It's a can of Tecate On Sep 13, 2016 12:47 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have something on the drawing board. > > On Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind. >> >> They do make some big cameras, so there must be something. >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >> >> How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used for cameras? >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Brian Webster >>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> >>> I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the backhaul with >>> servos. >>> That would really take me back to my R/C car days. >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Robert Andrews" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> >>> You would need a rotator that doesn't have any backlash or a way to >>>> lock it up. >>>> >>>> On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it. Or a ham antenna rotator, those >>>>> are much more heavy duty. >>>>> *From:* Joe Novak <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>> What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your >>>>> living room? >>>>> Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up? >>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Antennas are the easy part. Dual receivers and the voting circuit >>>>> is the tricky part. >>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>> Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas. Like a >>>>> spatial diversity setup. >>>>> I wonder if McCown makes parts for that. >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>> >>>>>> May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you >>>>>> could install two radios, once that is on target in summer and >>>>>> one >>>>>> in winter, and switch between them without climbing at least. >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with >>>>>> twin >>>>>> poles they through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and >>>>>> then hang the cross braces across the hangers. Poles >>>>>> twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension or >>>>>> compression on the cross bracing... Unless the poles >>>>>> actually >>>>>> start to lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much >>>>>> immobile.. But putting two poles up pretty much brings it >>>>>> to >>>>>> the price of a tower. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable >>>>>> curvature near the top. Maybe we'll move the dish below >>>>>> the curve and see if that helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: "Jay Weekley" <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>>> >>>>>> For us they are and haven't hand problems with >>>>>> twisting. We've got one with a link that's been >>>>>> steady for 6 years or more. The problem is accessing >>>>>> the link on short notice since we don't know a bucket >>>>>> truck and operators are very busy. It seems like you >>>>>> could put two wood posts on either side of the pole >>>>>> and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it >>>>>> from >>>>>> twisting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if painting would help keep moisture >>>>>> out? Maybe its a >>>>>> temperature thing too? >>>>>> >>>>>> I always thought wood poles would be great for >>>>>> CPE >>>>>> locations but now maybe not. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett >>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with an >>>>>> AP and backhaul on it. It's >>>>>> been in the ground about 3 years now. >>>>>> >>>>>> This past spring we noticed the signal drop >>>>>> slowly on the backhaul over the >>>>>> course of a month. A climber went up and >>>>>> adjusted it by about 9 degrees, >>>>>> but he said the mount was tight when he got >>>>>> there. This past month the RSSI >>>>>> on the backhaul has been slowly dropping >>>>>> again. >>>>>> >>>>>> The humidity here tends to shoot way up in >>>>>> the >>>>>> summer and drop in the >>>>>> winter. I'm supposing this beast must be >>>>>> twisting as it soaks up moisture >>>>>> and then dries out again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this a problem that might diminish as the >>>>>> pole ages, or is there perhaps >>>>>> any possible remediation? I guess the >>>>>> permanent fix is a real tower or a >>>>>> steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one >>>>>> of >>>>>> you old phone guys knows some >>>>>> magic trick. Seems like if there was a wire >>>>>> attached to this pole, that a 9 >>>>>> degree twist would put some wicked tension on >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>
