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On Sep 13, 2016 7:42 PM, "Jay Weekley" <[email protected]> wrote:

> All things are possible through beer.
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> Jaime Solorza wrote:
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>> Oh wait.  It's a can of Tecate
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>> On Sep 13, 2016 12:47 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>     I have something on the drawing board.
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>>     On Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>         Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind.
>>
>>         They do make some big cameras, so there must be something.
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>>
>>         ------ Original Message ------
>>         From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM
>>         Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>
>>             How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used
>>             for cameras?
>>
>>             Thank You,
>>             Brian Webster
>>             www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>>             www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
>>
>>
>>             -----Original Message-----
>>             From: Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>>             Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM
>>             To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>
>>             I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the
>>             backhaul with servos.
>>             That would really take me back to my R/C car days.
>>
>>
>>             ------ Original Message ------
>>             From: "Robert Andrews" <[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>             To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM
>>             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
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>>                 You would need a rotator that doesn't have any
>>                 backlash or a way to
>>                 lock it up.
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>>                 On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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>>                     Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it.  Or a ham
>>                     antenna rotator, those
>>                     are much more heavy duty.
>>                     *From:* Joe Novak <mailto:[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM
>>                     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>                     What about those old systems for aiming antennas
>>                     on tripods from your
>>                     living room?
>>                     Is there anything like that remotely controlled
>>                     that you could rig up?
>>                     On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown
>>                     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>                     wrote:
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>>                          Antennas are the easy part.  Dual receivers
>>                     and the voting circuit
>>                          is the tricky part.
>>                          *From:* Adam Moffett
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                          *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM
>>                          *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                          *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>                          Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but
>>                     two antennas.  Like a
>>                          spatial diversity setup.
>>                          I wonder if McCown makes parts for that.
>>                          ------ Original Message ------
>>                          From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>                          To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                          Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM
>>                          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
>>
>>                              May not be a viable solution with an 11
>>                         ghz backhaul, but you
>>                              could install two radios, once that is on
>>                         target in summer and
>>                         one
>>                              in winter, and switch between them
>>                         without climbing at least.
>>                              On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert
>>                         <[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                              <mailto:[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
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>>                                  When you look at the high voltage
>>                         distribution lines with
>>                         twin
>>                                  poles they through bolt hanger
>>                         connectors on the poles and
>>                                  then hang the cross braces across the
>>                         hangers.   Poles
>>                                  twisting then doesn't do anything but
>>                         put tension or
>>                                  compression on the cross bracing...
>>                         Unless the poles
>>                         actually
>>                                  start to lean, the cross bracing
>>                         stays pretty much
>>                                  immobile..   But putting two poles up
>>                         pretty much brings it
>>                         to
>>                                  the price of a tower.
>>
>>                                  On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
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>>                                      I imagine the pole would win that
>>                         tug of war over time.
>>
>>                                      Looking at a photo of this pole,
>>                         it has a noticeable
>>                                      curvature near the top. Maybe
>>                         we'll move the dish below
>>                                      the curve and see if that helps.
>>
>>
>>                                      ------ Original Message ------
>>                                      From: "Jay Weekley"
>>                         <[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                                      <mailto:[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>                                      To: [email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                                      Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM
>>                                      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole
>>                         twisting
>>
>>                                          For us they are and haven't
>>                         hand problems with
>>                                          twisting.  We've got one with
>>                         a link that's been
>>                                          steady for 6 years or more.
>>                         The problem is accessing
>>                                          the link on short notice
>>                         since we don't know a bucket
>>                                          truck and operators are very
>>                         busy.  It seems like you
>>                                          could put two wood posts on
>>                         either side of the pole
>>                                          and secure a 4x4 with large
>>                         lag screws to keep it
>>                         from
>>                                          twisting.
>>
>>                                          Matt wrote:
>>
>>                                              I wonder if painting
>>                         would help keep moisture
>>                                              out?  Maybe its a
>>                                              temperature thing too?
>>
>>                                              I always thought wood
>>                         poles would be great for
>>                         CPE
>>                                              locations but now maybe not.
>>
>>
>>                                              On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at
>>                         3:44 AM, Adam Moffett
>>                                              <[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>                                              wrote:
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>>                                                  I've got a 70' (61'
>>                         AGL) class 3 pole with an
>>                                                  AP and backhaul on
>>                         it.  It's
>>                                                  been in the ground
>>                         about 3 years now.
>>
>>                                                  This past spring we
>>                         noticed the signal drop
>>                                                  slowly on the
>>                         backhaul over the
>>                                                  course of a month.  A
>>                         climber went up and
>>                                                  adjusted it by about
>>                         9 degrees,
>>                                                  but he said the mount
>>                         was tight when he got
>>                                                  there.  This past
>>                         month the RSSI
>>                                                  on the backhaul has
>>                         been slowly dropping
>>                         again.
>>
>>                                                  The humidity here
>>                         tends to shoot way up in
>>                         the
>>                                                  summer and drop in the
>>                                                  winter.  I'm
>>                         supposing this beast must be
>>                                                  twisting as it soaks
>>                         up moisture
>>                                                  and then dries out again.
>>
>>                                                  Is this a problem
>>                         that might diminish as the
>>                                                  pole ages, or is
>>                         there perhaps
>>                                                  any possible
>>                         remediation?  I guess the
>>                                                  permanent fix is a
>>                         real tower or a
>>                                                  steel pole, but I
>>                         guess I'm hoping that one
>>                         of
>>                                                  you old phone guys
>>                         knows some
>>                                                  magic trick. Seems
>>                         like if there was a wire
>>                                                  attached to this
>>                         pole, that a 9
>>                                                  degree twist would
>>                         put some wicked tension on
>>                         it.
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