Tower of empty Tecate cans? Likely would't be very stable, but it sure would be fun to build.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes... Tecate= Enlightenment.. The wizard has spoken > > On Sep 13, 2016 7:42 PM, "Jay Weekley" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> All things are possible through beer. >> >> Jaime Solorza wrote: >> >>> >>> Oh wait. It's a can of Tecate >>> >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2016 12:47 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I have something on the drawing board. >>> >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind. >>> >>> They do make some big cameras, so there must be something. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> >>> How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used >>> for cameras? >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Brian Webster >>> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> >>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> >>> I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the >>> backhaul with servos. >>> That would really take me back to my R/C car days. >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Robert Andrews" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> >>> You would need a rotator that doesn't have any >>> backlash or a way to >>> lock it up. >>> >>> On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it. Or a ham >>> antenna rotator, those >>> are much more heavy duty. >>> *From:* Joe Novak <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> What about those old systems for aiming antennas >>> on tripods from your >>> living room? >>> Is there anything like that remotely controlled >>> that you could rig up? >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Antennas are the easy part. Dual receivers >>> and the voting circuit >>> is the tricky part. >>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but >>> two antennas. Like a >>> spatial diversity setup. >>> I wonder if McCown makes parts for that. >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> >>> May not be a viable solution with an 11 >>> ghz backhaul, but you >>> could install two radios, once that is on >>> target in summer and >>> one >>> in winter, and switch between them >>> without climbing at least. >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> >>> When you look at the high voltage >>> distribution lines with >>> twin >>> poles they through bolt hanger >>> connectors on the poles and >>> then hang the cross braces across the >>> hangers. Poles >>> twisting then doesn't do anything but >>> put tension or >>> compression on the cross bracing... >>> Unless the poles >>> actually >>> start to lean, the cross bracing >>> stays pretty much >>> immobile.. But putting two poles up >>> pretty much brings it >>> to >>> the price of a tower. >>> >>> On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>> >>> I imagine the pole would win that >>> tug of war over time. >>> >>> Looking at a photo of this pole, >>> it has a noticeable >>> curvature near the top. Maybe >>> we'll move the dish below >>> the curve and see if that helps. >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Jay Weekley" >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> To: [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole >>> twisting >>> >>> For us they are and haven't >>> hand problems with >>> twisting. We've got one with >>> a link that's been >>> steady for 6 years or more. >>> The problem is accessing >>> the link on short notice >>> since we don't know a bucket >>> truck and operators are very >>> busy. It seems like you >>> could put two wood posts on >>> either side of the pole >>> and secure a 4x4 with large >>> lag screws to keep it >>> from >>> twisting. >>> >>> Matt wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if painting >>> would help keep moisture >>> out? Maybe its a >>> temperature thing too? >>> >>> I always thought wood >>> poles would be great for >>> CPE >>> locations but now maybe not. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at >>> 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I've got a 70' (61' >>> AGL) class 3 pole with an >>> AP and backhaul on >>> it. It's >>> been in the ground >>> about 3 years now. >>> >>> This past spring we >>> noticed the signal drop >>> slowly on the >>> backhaul over the >>> course of a month. A >>> climber went up and >>> adjusted it by about >>> 9 degrees, >>> but he said the mount >>> was tight when he got >>> there. This past >>> month the RSSI >>> on the backhaul has >>> been slowly dropping >>> again. >>> >>> The humidity here >>> tends to shoot way up in >>> the >>> summer and drop in the >>> winter. I'm >>> supposing this beast must be >>> twisting as it soaks >>> up moisture >>> and then dries out >>> again. >>> >>> Is this a problem >>> that might diminish as the >>> pole ages, or is >>> there perhaps >>> any possible >>> remediation? I guess the >>> permanent fix is a >>> real tower or a >>> steel pole, but I >>> guess I'm hoping that one >>> of >>> you old phone guys >>> knows some >>> magic trick. Seems >>> like if there was a wire >>> attached to this >>> pole, that a 9 >>> degree twist would >>> put some wicked tension on >>> it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
