i second that emoticon On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh wait. It's a can of Tecate > > On Sep 13, 2016 12:47 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I have something on the drawing board. >> >> On Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind. >>> >>> They do make some big cameras, so there must be something. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>> >>> How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used for cameras? >>>> >>>> Thank You, >>>> Brian Webster >>>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>> >>>> I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the backhaul with >>>> servos. >>>> That would really take me back to my R/C car days. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Robert Andrews" <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>> >>>> You would need a rotator that doesn't have any backlash or a way to >>>>> lock it up. >>>>> >>>>> On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it. Or a ham antenna rotator, those >>>>>> are much more heavy duty. >>>>>> *From:* Joe Novak <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>>> What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your >>>>>> living room? >>>>>> Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up? >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Antennas are the easy part. Dual receivers and the voting >>>>>> circuit >>>>>> is the tricky part. >>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>>> Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas. Like a >>>>>> spatial diversity setup. >>>>>> I wonder if McCown makes parts for that. >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>>> >>>>>>> May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you >>>>>>> could install two radios, once that is on target in summer and >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> in winter, and switch between them without climbing at least. >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert < >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with >>>>>>> twin >>>>>>> poles they through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and >>>>>>> then hang the cross braces across the hangers. Poles >>>>>>> twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension or >>>>>>> compression on the cross bracing... Unless the poles >>>>>>> actually >>>>>>> start to lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much >>>>>>> immobile.. But putting two poles up pretty much brings it >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the price of a tower. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable >>>>>>> curvature near the top. Maybe we'll move the dish below >>>>>>> the curve and see if that helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>> From: "Jay Weekley" <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For us they are and haven't hand problems with >>>>>>> twisting. We've got one with a link that's been >>>>>>> steady for 6 years or more. The problem is >>>>>>> accessing >>>>>>> the link on short notice since we don't know a >>>>>>> bucket >>>>>>> truck and operators are very busy. It seems like >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> could put two wood posts on either side of the pole >>>>>>> and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> twisting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder if painting would help keep moisture >>>>>>> out? Maybe its a >>>>>>> temperature thing too? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I always thought wood poles would be great for >>>>>>> CPE >>>>>>> locations but now maybe not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> AP and backhaul on it. It's >>>>>>> been in the ground about 3 years now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This past spring we noticed the signal drop >>>>>>> slowly on the backhaul over the >>>>>>> course of a month. A climber went up and >>>>>>> adjusted it by about 9 degrees, >>>>>>> but he said the mount was tight when he got >>>>>>> there. This past month the RSSI >>>>>>> on the backhaul has been slowly dropping >>>>>>> again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The humidity here tends to shoot way up in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> summer and drop in the >>>>>>> winter. I'm supposing this beast must be >>>>>>> twisting as it soaks up moisture >>>>>>> and then dries out again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this a problem that might diminish as the >>>>>>> pole ages, or is there perhaps >>>>>>> any possible remediation? I guess the >>>>>>> permanent fix is a real tower or a >>>>>>> steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> you old phone guys knows some >>>>>>> magic trick. Seems like if there was a wire >>>>>>> attached to this pole, that a 9 >>>>>>> degree twist would put some wicked tension >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
