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Jaime Solorza wrote:
Oh wait. It's a can of Tecate
On Sep 13, 2016 12:47 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have something on the drawing board.
On Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yeah, if it's beefy enough to hold the dish against the wind.
They do make some big cameras, so there must be something.
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From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]
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To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 9/13/2016 1:06:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
How about just using a good pan/tilt/Zoom mechanism used
for cameras?
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:04 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
I wonder if I could spin the alignment screws on the
backhaul with servos.
That would really take me back to my R/C car days.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Andrews" <[email protected]
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Sent: 9/13/2016 12:50:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
You would need a rotator that doesn't have any
backlash or a way to
lock it up.
On 09/13/2016 09:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it. Or a ham
antenna rotator, those
are much more heavy duty.
*From:* Joe Novak <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
What about those old systems for aiming antennas
on tripods from your
living room?
Is there anything like that remotely controlled
that you could rig up?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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wrote:
Antennas are the easy part. Dual receivers
and the voting circuit
is the tricky part.
*From:* Adam Moffett
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but
two antennas. Like a
spatial diversity setup.
I wonder if McCown makes parts for that.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]
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To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting
May not be a viable solution with an 11
ghz backhaul, but you
could install two radios, once that is on
target in summer and
one
in winter, and switch between them
without climbing at least.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
When you look at the high voltage
distribution lines with
twin
poles they through bolt hanger
connectors on the poles and
then hang the cross braces across the
hangers. Poles
twisting then doesn't do anything but
put tension or
compression on the cross bracing...
Unless the poles
actually
start to lean, the cross bracing
stays pretty much
immobile.. But putting two poles up
pretty much brings it
to
the price of a tower.
On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I imagine the pole would win that
tug of war over time.
Looking at a photo of this pole,
it has a noticeable
curvature near the top. Maybe
we'll move the dish below
the curve and see if that helps.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jay Weekley"
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To: [email protected]
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Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole
twisting
For us they are and haven't
hand problems with
twisting. We've got one with
a link that's been
steady for 6 years or more.
The problem is accessing
the link on short notice
since we don't know a bucket
truck and operators are very
busy. It seems like you
could put two wood posts on
either side of the pole
and secure a 4x4 with large
lag screws to keep it
from
twisting.
Matt wrote:
I wonder if painting
would help keep moisture
out? Maybe its a
temperature thing too?
I always thought wood
poles would be great for
CPE
locations but now maybe not.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at
3:44 AM, Adam Moffett
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>
wrote:
I've got a 70' (61'
AGL) class 3 pole with an
AP and backhaul on
it. It's
been in the ground
about 3 years now.
This past spring we
noticed the signal drop
slowly on the
backhaul over the
course of a month. A
climber went up and
adjusted it by about
9 degrees,
but he said the mount
was tight when he got
there. This past
month the RSSI
on the backhaul has
been slowly dropping
again.
The humidity here
tends to shoot way up in
the
summer and drop in the
winter. I'm
supposing this beast must be
twisting as it soaks
up moisture
and then dries out again.
Is this a problem
that might diminish as the
pole ages, or is
there perhaps
any possible
remediation? I guess the
permanent fix is a
real tower or a
steel pole, but I
guess I'm hoping that one
of
you old phone guys
knows some
magic trick. Seems
like if there was a wire
attached to this
pole, that a 9
degree twist would
put some wicked tension on
it.
