Natch. Nothing but smart people on this list.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 10/4/2016 12:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Oooh that's smart!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    The last two vans I bought we put lights in from Amazon.
    LED Lights on Amazon
    
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017ISF48O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
    They were cheap and work great. One kit was enough for the
    Promaster. Definitely lights things up enough to even work in there.

    We had the Transit Connect. I will say we had it set up with
    organizers fit for 6 carry holder deals with hinged lids and
    dividers. Floor to ceiling and side to side. Great for storing
    lots of stuff and also serves to protect the driver from flying
    crap. With two doors you could get to them all without getting in.
    At any rate, not having been the driver and just the guy writing
    the check it seemed to me to be worth the difference. I bought a
    Military HUMVEE from Fort Hood to go places nothing else would.

    On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 1:38 PM Josh Luthman
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

        I'm thinking medium roof because it's 6', it'd be nice to
        stand in it to grab things.  The only disadvantage is not
        being able to go through a drive through, which is awfully
        rare to begin with.


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Bill Prince
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I was going to bring that up. The "original" Transit has
            become the Transit Connect. It's essentially a car with a
            small van body. Probably an excellent in-town delivery
            vehicle and gets outstanding mileage. If your needs are
            relatively modest, it can fit into a lot of situations.

            The Transit is an E-series van, and comes in short,
            medium, and tall varieties. It competes with the Mercedes
            Sprinter and the Dodge ProMaster and the like.


            bp
            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

            On 10/4/2016 11:33 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

            A transit connect or transit? One is pretty much a car,
            the other is the E series replacement.

            On Tuesday, October 4, 2016, Lewis Bergman
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                We had a Ford Transit and just got rid of it. It was
                two years old. I can't say anything horrible about it
                but the guy who drove it always had something bad to
                say. It was to small, couldn't store enough, so low
                to the ground it wouldn't go off the highway, etc. Of
                course now that he has a brand new Dodge Promaster
                that you could park that transit in it "rides to
                rough". What a pussy.
                Anyway, It got really good gas mileage, had a few
                recalls but nothing earth shattering or more than
                what seems usual these days. Enterprise fleet, where
                we get our vehicles, says they tend to have
                transmission problems around 65k to 70k miles. We
                didn't experience that and got rid of it at 68k.

                It got around 26 MPG HWY and my guy kept it loaded
                down. With the heavy load it never squatted. I will
                say it does have small tires and is low to the
                ground. City and highway it was good. I thought it
                was pretty expensive for what it is. I think I paid
                $27k or some such. My full size ProMaster was less
                and gets about 15 MPG.

                On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:14 PM Joe Novak
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    http://www.dmv.org/il-illinois/salvaged-vehicles.php
                    <http://www.dmv.org/il-illinois/salvaged-vehicles.php>

                    Salvage titles don't get registered in
                    Illinois... they have to be inspected for a
                    'rebuilt' tilte.


                    On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Ken Hohhof
                    <[email protected]> wrote:

                        I assume the hail damage was cosmetic and you
                        would just live with it.  They were pricing
                        them about 25% off MSRP, but I assume you
                        lose the incentives like upfitting allowance,
                        cashback, 0.9% financing that you would get
                        on a new van.  They were technically used
                        vehicles since they were titled when the
                        insurance company paid off the dealer whose
lot they were sitting on when the hail hit. I also suspect the Carfacts history would
                        affect resale value, since it would show up
                        as an insurance salvage vehicle, people think
                        accident or flood damage.

                        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On
                        Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
                        *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:36 AM
                        *To:* [email protected]
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans

                        Did they fix the hail damage?  I doubt
                        repairs were 30k per vehicle. Might get a
                        nice price reduction.


                        Josh Luthman
                        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                        1100 Wayne St
                        Suite 1337
                        Troy, OH 45373

                        On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Ken Hohhof
                        <[email protected]> wrote:

                            I am also looking at Ford Transit, medium
                            roof 130” wheelbase 3.5L Ecoboost. Trying
                            to decide if the dual sliding doors
                            option is brilliant or stupid.

                            A dealer near me bought up a bunch of
                            2016 Transits with hail damage, I decided
                            to pass on that. I think that means a
                            salvage title.

                            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]]
                            *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
                            *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:10 AM
                            *To:* [email protected]
                            *Subject:* [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans

                            I already have a Tacoma which is great,
                            but I'm looking for a second vehicle for
                            a second driver.  I'd like to try a work
                            van to keep everything inside.  Maybe
                            even warm parts for the winter.

                            I'm looking at the Ford Transit and would
                            love to hear of any additional
                            suggestions/experiences.

                            Josh Luthman
                            Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                            Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                            1100 Wayne St
                            Suite 1337
                            Troy, OH 45373





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