Lot of boat WiFi 30 miles out on the water you're worried about? :P

(Tongue in cheek.. Mostly)

On Nov 1, 2016 7:00 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do you have that much freq /channel available in 5ghz to Burn ?  (or
> thrash for yourself and everyone else ?)
>
> Can one do it with 5ghz, answer is YES, but will it allow you to sleep
> well at night day after day for long periods of time... chances are NO....
>
> Whatever you can do with 5ghz, you can do with licensed 6ghz (take this a
> bit loosely) yes the costs may be a wee bit different.
>
> FWIW, talk to the folks who are most likely have done something similar.
>    Cambium
>    Exalt
>    and possibly Radwin.
>    Ceragon (licensed)
>
> These folks have deep roots in working with Telco world, and as such most
> likely have done long links over water.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth.
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>
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>
> *From: *"Charles Regan" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 1, 2016 5:51:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps
>
> That's interesting. Using multiple frequency and hope ducting affects only
> some of them? How many DB loss from the multiplexer?
>
> On Oct 31, 2016 11:11 PM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If you are already using AF5X, would this be a possibility?[image:
>> Inline image 1]
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We did a link from across the bay in Corpus Cristi with Tsunami 5Ghz
>>> radios using 4 ft. Dishes using horizontal polarity.   5 story building on
>>> one side and 120 ft.  Tower at other side.   These were 10mbps radios and
>>> we got almost 100% across.  All the other links on same roof and other
>>> water as well used vertical polarity and had ducting issues.   With MIMO
>>> and all kinds of polarity options I am sure you can find a solution.
>>> Antenna diversity must be engineered for path and conditions.   Where are
>>> you trying to shoot from?
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2016 6:39 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz?
>>>> Seems a 2+0 at 6 would probably work at that distance.. although
>>>> seawater is a factor I dunno about
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 18:32, Charles Regan <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well here's SAF response:
>>>> *My link planning team confirmed SAF does not have a viable 5GHz radio
>>>> that can achieve your objective for this path.*
>>>>
>>>> Trango:
>>>> *rough calculation suggests that even using space diversity will yield
>>>> a 3 - 4 'nines' link (predicted reliability) at around 200Mbps FDX.  The
>>>> use of space diversity will also add considerably to the cost (a complete
>>>> link might be upwards of $50K).*
>>>>
>>>> I'll ask SIAE...
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2016 9:19 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 20k?
>>>>>
>>>>> SIAE AlfoPlus2 6 GHz 1024QAM dual polarity link. Or two pairs of
>>>>> alfoplus1 1024qam (single polarity) radios running in parallel, opposite
>>>>> polarities, equal OSPF cost between routers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or Trango's 1024QAM 6GHz radios.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not SAF?  I thought there was a 6 GHz version of the Integra now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Charles Regan <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What would you guys use for a 60 miles PTP link? 400Mbps. Oh and it's
>>>>>> over seawater... 20k$ budget.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SAF, Trango both said sorry, can't do.
>>>>>> Mimosa B5C with space diversity and 3k$ maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do have a working AF5x with a 34dbi dish doing 150Mbps aggregate.
>>>>>> The link gets bad sometimes because of ducting/reflection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How could I use two parabolics dish on different polarity with the
>>>>>> AF5x for space diversity? Splitter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should a B5C perform better or worse ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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