Yes, interop mode is still an option on 430 SMs running 14.1.2. 450 mode only for 14.2.1+. If you try to update a 430 SM to 14.2.1 while its in 430 mode, it will fail with 'invalid image file' so thankfully you can't nuke it.

On 11/6/2016 7:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

OK, so I upgraded a 430 SM over the air (directly, not via AP autoupdate) and everything was copacetic. I used a customer who was shut off for nonpayment as the guinea pig. But now I will probably just autoupdate them all.

The options for 430 or 450 interop mode didn’t go away, I kind of wish it did, I still need to manually uncheck 430 mode on all those SMs since all the 430 APs have been replaced. I think someone said that option did go away maybe with 14.2?

Now I need to verify that tone alignment works.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:28 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

I have taken 430 SMs to 14.x on the bench. 11.2 > 12.1 > 13.4.1 > 14.1.2. 450, 450i and 430 *SM* uses the same package file. The various images are all rolled together in the pxp45x pkg3's. 13.4.1 is the end of the road for the 430 *AP*. And FSK.

On 10/19/2016 10:14 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

    There isn't a .pkg file for OFDM 430 after 13.4.1

    Also it's somewhere in the release notes or user manual but it's
    been a while since I've read them and I don't remember which
    version started talking about it.  It could have been in some of
    the beta release notes because we beta tested most of the 14.x
    builds. Check the forums too because it might have been discussed
    there as well.  I'm to old to remember haha.

    -Sean



    On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

        OK, that provides some clarity but also more confusion.  Not
        sure I’m looking at the same document as you,  I see
        Introduction on page 5.

        But in the 14.1.2 release notes, I see nothing about 430 at all.

        In the 14.2.1 release notes, I do see a Note that 430 SMs must
        first go to 14.1.2 before 14.2.1, and a Note they will no
        longer be able to talk to a 430 AP.  I am not seeing anything
        about having to do the upgrade over the air (which is really
        strange IMHO).  Are you seeing this explicitly stated in the
        release notes, or inferring it from the fact that 13.4.1 is
        that last download listed on the website for 430?

        *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On
        Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
        *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:29 PM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone

        Software release notes for 14.2.1 in the introduction on page
        3 gives the best description. (I think it's on or near the
        same page with the other releases but I'm on my phone so it's
        hard to scan thru them all)

        The update has to be done over the air thru SMs auto update
        tho.  You can't upgrade a 430 SM on the bench past 13.4.1.

        -Sean



        On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>> wrote:

            Do you have a link to that?  I just checked and 14.1.2,
            14.2.1 and 15.0 all say 450/450i/450m no mention of 430,
            also on the download page if you select 430 the latest FW
            shown is 13.4.1.

            We gained a lot of stability with 14.1.2 and it would be
            nice if we could bring the 430 SMs up to that.  I’m not so
            sure about 14.2.1, and 15.0 seems to be mostly to support
            450m.

            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
            *Sean Heskett
            *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 6:38 PM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and
            alignment tone

            Thru auto update from the AP over the air 430 SMs can and
            should be brought up to whatever firmware the AP is using.

            If you need to connect the 430SM back to a 430 AP you'll
            need to manually downgrade the SM to 13.4.1 tho.

            It's in all the 14.x release notes.

            -Sean

            On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof
            <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

                We have changed out all our 430 Aps for 450i, but
                still have a bunch of 430 SMs running in 450
                compatibility mode.  My techs keep telling me when
                they do service calls, that alignment tone is broken
                on those SMs.  The first time I figured bad hardware
                since some roofers had bonked the dish, but as it
                keeps happening, I’m realizing it must be the firmware.

                I remember some FW release broke alignment tone on the
                450 SMs and so we waited until the fixed it.  I don’t
                remember which release broke it and which release
                fixed it.

                But the release notes tell you that for compatibility
                with 450i you should have 430 SMs on 13.4.1, plus I
                think that’s the end of the line for 430, right?  We
                can’t go to 14.1.2 which is what we have on all our
                450 stuff.

                Does anyone know if in fact alignment tone is non
                functional on a 430 SM with 13.4.1?


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