what caused tones to stop working anyway, i dont remember the history on
it, i loved them for the fsk stuff when i was installing, but new guy techs
didnt care and broke the toners all the time so i quit making them

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> OK, that makes sense, especially about 13.4.1 being the end of the line
> for FSK and 430 AP.
>
>
>
> I’ll have to try that on the bench.  I hate over-the-air experiments that
> might result in truck rolls and pissed off customers.
>
>
>
> I have been wondering what happens if I do auto update via an AP with a
> mix of 430 and 450 APs, I don’t think there’s a way to specify do one and
> not the other, unless it runs into no applicable update.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:28 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone
>
>
>
> I have taken 430 SMs to 14.x on the bench. 11.2 > 12.1 > 13.4.1 > 14.1.2.
> 450, 450i and 430 *SM* uses the same package file. The various images are
> all rolled together in the pxp45x pkg3's. 13.4.1 is the end of the road for
> the 430 *AP*. And FSK.
>
> On 10/19/2016 10:14 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> There isn't a .pkg file for OFDM 430 after 13.4.1
>
>
>
> Also it's somewhere in the release notes or user manual but it's been a
> while since I've read them and I don't remember which version started
> talking about it.  It could have been in some of the beta release notes
> because we beta tested most of the 14.x builds.  Check the forums too
> because it might have been discussed there as well.  I'm to old to remember
> haha.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> OK, that provides some clarity but also more confusion.  Not sure I’m
> looking at the same document as you,  I see Introduction on page 5.
>
>
>
> But in the 14.1.2 release notes, I see nothing about 430 at all.
>
>
>
> In the 14.2.1 release notes, I do see a Note that 430 SMs must first go to
> 14.1.2 before 14.2.1, and a Note they will no longer be able to talk to a
> 430 AP.  I am not seeing anything about having to do the upgrade over the
> air (which is really strange IMHO).  Are you seeing this explicitly stated
> in the release notes, or inferring it from the fact that 13.4.1 is that
> last download listed on the website for 430?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:29 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone
>
>
>
> Software release notes for 14.2.1 in the introduction on page 3 gives the
> best description. (I think it's on or near the same page with the other
> releases but I'm on my phone so it's hard to scan thru them all)
>
>
>
> The update has to be done over the air thru SMs auto update tho.  You
> can't upgrade a 430 SM on the bench past 13.4.1.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Do you have a link to that?  I just checked and 14.1.2, 14.2.1 and 15.0
> all say 450/450i/450m no mention of 430, also on the download page if you
> select 430 the latest FW shown is 13.4.1.
>
>
>
> We gained a lot of stability with 14.1.2 and it would be nice if we could
> bring the 430 SMs up to that.  I’m not so sure about 14.2.1, and 15.0 seems
> to be mostly to support 450m.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 6:38 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone
>
>
>
> Thru auto update from the AP over the air 430 SMs can and should be
> brought up to whatever firmware the AP is using.
>
>
>
> If you need to connect the 430SM back to a 430 AP you'll need to manually
> downgrade the SM to 13.4.1 tho.
>
>
>
> It's in all the 14.x release notes.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> We have changed out all our 430 Aps for 450i, but still have a bunch of
> 430 SMs running in 450 compatibility mode.  My techs keep telling me when
> they do service calls, that alignment tone is broken on those SMs.  The
> first time I figured bad hardware since some roofers had bonked the dish,
> but as it keeps happening, I’m realizing it must be the firmware.
>
>
>
> I remember some FW release broke alignment tone on the 450 SMs and so we
> waited until the fixed it.  I don’t remember which release broke it and
> which release fixed it.
>
>
>
> But the release notes tell you that for compatibility with 450i you should
> have 430 SMs on 13.4.1, plus I think that’s the end of the line for 430,
> right?  We can’t go to 14.1.2 which is what we have on all our 450 stuff.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if in fact alignment tone is non functional on a 430 SM
> with 13.4.1?
>
>
>



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