what caused tones to stop working anyway, i dont remember the history on it, i loved them for the fsk stuff when i was installing, but new guy techs didnt care and broke the toners all the time so i quit making them
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > OK, that makes sense, especially about 13.4.1 being the end of the line > for FSK and 430 AP. > > > > I’ll have to try that on the bench. I hate over-the-air experiments that > might result in truck rolls and pissed off customers. > > > > I have been wondering what happens if I do auto update via an AP with a > mix of 430 and 450 APs, I don’t think there’s a way to specify do one and > not the other, unless it runs into no applicable update. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:28 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone > > > > I have taken 430 SMs to 14.x on the bench. 11.2 > 12.1 > 13.4.1 > 14.1.2. > 450, 450i and 430 *SM* uses the same package file. The various images are > all rolled together in the pxp45x pkg3's. 13.4.1 is the end of the road for > the 430 *AP*. And FSK. > > On 10/19/2016 10:14 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > There isn't a .pkg file for OFDM 430 after 13.4.1 > > > > Also it's somewhere in the release notes or user manual but it's been a > while since I've read them and I don't remember which version started > talking about it. It could have been in some of the beta release notes > because we beta tested most of the 14.x builds. Check the forums too > because it might have been discussed there as well. I'm to old to remember > haha. > > > > -Sean > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > OK, that provides some clarity but also more confusion. Not sure I’m > looking at the same document as you, I see Introduction on page 5. > > > > But in the 14.1.2 release notes, I see nothing about 430 at all. > > > > In the 14.2.1 release notes, I do see a Note that 430 SMs must first go to > 14.1.2 before 14.2.1, and a Note they will no longer be able to talk to a > 430 AP. I am not seeing anything about having to do the upgrade over the > air (which is really strange IMHO). Are you seeing this explicitly stated > in the release notes, or inferring it from the fact that 13.4.1 is that > last download listed on the website for 430? > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:29 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone > > > > Software release notes for 14.2.1 in the introduction on page 3 gives the > best description. (I think it's on or near the same page with the other > releases but I'm on my phone so it's hard to scan thru them all) > > > > The update has to be done over the air thru SMs auto update tho. You > can't upgrade a 430 SM on the bench past 13.4.1. > > > > -Sean > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > Do you have a link to that? I just checked and 14.1.2, 14.2.1 and 15.0 > all say 450/450i/450m no mention of 430, also on the download page if you > select 430 the latest FW shown is 13.4.1. > > > > We gained a lot of stability with 14.1.2 and it would be nice if we could > bring the 430 SMs up to that. I’m not so sure about 14.2.1, and 15.0 seems > to be mostly to support 450m. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 6:38 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4.1 on PMP430 and alignment tone > > > > Thru auto update from the AP over the air 430 SMs can and should be > brought up to whatever firmware the AP is using. > > > > If you need to connect the 430SM back to a 430 AP you'll need to manually > downgrade the SM to 13.4.1 tho. > > > > It's in all the 14.x release notes. > > > > -Sean > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > We have changed out all our 430 Aps for 450i, but still have a bunch of > 430 SMs running in 450 compatibility mode. My techs keep telling me when > they do service calls, that alignment tone is broken on those SMs. The > first time I figured bad hardware since some roofers had bonked the dish, > but as it keeps happening, I’m realizing it must be the firmware. > > > > I remember some FW release broke alignment tone on the 450 SMs and so we > waited until the fixed it. I don’t remember which release broke it and > which release fixed it. > > > > But the release notes tell you that for compatibility with 450i you should > have 430 SMs on 13.4.1, plus I think that’s the end of the line for 430, > right? We can’t go to 14.1.2 which is what we have on all our 450 stuff. > > > > Does anyone know if in fact alignment tone is non functional on a 430 SM > with 13.4.1? > > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.