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Inquiring minds.


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On 11/7/2016 8:47 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
If you are in a congested RF environment why on earth would you waste the spectrum on a B11? It only does 256QAM

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:42 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    *nods* I asked about going from a 3' to a 6' SHP dish, no go.

    That said, I've got a couple paths in HFT central where I can
    still do B11s.  :-)




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    <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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    *From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 7:39:31 PM

    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

    My finger clicked send before my brain.

    Interestingly, a RadioWaves HP2-11 has 60dB f/b ratio and is a Cat
    B. While a HP3-11 has 62dB f/b and is Cat A. The VHLP800-11 has
    59dB f/b and is Cat A while being only 3" smaller in actual
    diameter vs the HP3-11 (35.5" for a "2.5" foot antenna, vs a 38.4"
    3 foot). But a bit weaker f/b ratio than a HP2. Both are shrouded.
    I don't get it. I think there may be something else like main lobe
    beamwidth, too.

    The problem with all this Cat A vs B stuff is it really doesn't
    matter anymore in congested areas. I had Liz look for a 56MHz
    channel on a path. She said nope. I said, OK, what about changing
    the 2' end to a 3'. She still said nope. Polarity, antenna size,
    etc., nothing mattered. Out of channels is out of channels. Good
    luck with those funky B11's.

    On 11/7/2016 7:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

        Yes. Not a size requirement, just a suppression requirement.
        It's just what size of antennas normally meet those requirements.



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        <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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        *From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]>
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        *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 7:08:11 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

        IIRC, the classes are about front to back radio and sidelobe
        suppression.

        On 11/7/2016 6:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

            2.6' in 11 GHz. I forget who.



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            <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
            
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            *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <[email protected]>
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            *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 6:34:03 PM
            *Subject: *[AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

            Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz?  Or
            is 3 foot the minimum.

            Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or
            is 2 foot the minimum.

            Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link?

            Thanks

            Adam






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