I haven't bought B11s, just while scouting for options, I *COULD* do B11s. I 
could also swap them out later for something else like an AlfoPlus2. 

Why would I do a B11? Cheapest 11 GHz link with an SFP. 




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From: "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 10:51:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas 


+1 
Inquiring minds. 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 11/7/2016 8:47 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: 



If you are in a congested RF environment why on earth would you waste the 
spectrum on a B11? It only does 256QAM 


On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:42 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 

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*nods* I asked about going from a 3' to a 6' SHP dish, no go. 

That said, I've got a couple paths in HFT central where I can still do B11s. 
:-) 






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From: "George Skorup" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 



Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:39:31 PM 



Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas 

My finger clicked send before my brain. 

Interestingly, a RadioWaves HP2-11 has 60dB f/b ratio and is a Cat B. While a 
HP3-11 has 62dB f/b and is Cat A. The VHLP800-11 has 59dB f/b and is Cat A 
while being only 3" smaller in actual diameter vs the HP3-11 (35.5" for a "2.5" 
foot antenna, vs a 38.4" 3 foot). But a bit weaker f/b ratio than a HP2. Both 
are shrouded. I don't get it. I think there may be something else like main 
lobe beamwidth, too. 

The problem with all this Cat A vs B stuff is it really doesn't matter anymore 
in congested areas. I had Liz look for a 56MHz channel on a path. She said 
nope. I said, OK, what about changing the 2' end to a 3'. She still said nope. 
Polarity, antenna size, etc., nothing mattered. Out of channels is out of 
channels. Good luck with those funky B11's. 


On 11/7/2016 7:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 

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Yes. Not a size requirement, just a suppression requirement. It's just what 
size of antennas normally meet those requirements. 




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From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:08:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas 

IIRC, the classes are about front to back radio and sidelobe suppression. 


On 11/7/2016 6:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 

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2.6' in 11 GHz. I forget who. 




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From: "SmarterBroadband" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:34:03 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas 



Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz? Or is 3 foot the minimum. 

Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the minimum. 

Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link? 

Thanks 

Adam 





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