Rory is that 480Mbps aggregate or each direction.  also is it both
polarizations of a 40Mhz channel or one polarization?

-sean


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:

> And availability.  The B11’s were available almost a year ago.  Here is
> another thing, the B11’s can get up to 480Mbps of real throughput in a
> 40MHz channel.
>
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>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2016 5:05 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
>
>
> Just $1,200+ more per end than an AF11x.
>
> You could buy a pair of Cisco SFPs for that savings! At list price! ;)
>
> (Yes, I understand business case vs product cost, just ribbing you a bit.]
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I haven't bought B11s, just while scouting for options, I *COULD* do B11s.
> I could also swap them out later for something else like an AlfoPlus2.
>
> Why would I do a B11? Cheapest 11 GHz link with an SFP.
>
>
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>
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 10:51:11 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
> +1
>
> Inquiring minds.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 11/7/2016 8:47 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> If you are in a congested RF environment why on earth would you waste the
> spectrum on a B11? It only does 256QAM
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:42 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *nods* I asked about going from a 3' to a 6' SHP dish, no go.
>
> That said, I've got a couple paths in HFT central where I can still do
> B11s.  :-)
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
>
> *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 7:39:31 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
> My finger clicked send before my brain.
>
> Interestingly, a RadioWaves HP2-11 has 60dB f/b ratio and is a Cat B.
> While a HP3-11 has 62dB f/b and is Cat A. The VHLP800-11 has 59dB f/b and
> is Cat A while being only 3" smaller in actual diameter vs the HP3-11
> (35.5" for a "2.5" foot antenna, vs a 38.4" 3 foot). But a bit weaker f/b
> ratio than a HP2. Both are shrouded. I don't get it. I think there may be
> something else like main lobe beamwidth, too.
>
> The problem with all this Cat A vs B stuff is it really doesn't matter
> anymore in congested areas. I had Liz look for a 56MHz channel on a path.
> She said nope. I said, OK, what about changing the 2' end to a 3'. She
> still said nope. Polarity, antenna size, etc., nothing mattered. Out of
> channels is out of channels. Good luck with those funky B11's.
>
> On 11/7/2016 7:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Yes. Not a size requirement, just a suppression requirement. It's just
> what size of antennas normally meet those requirements.
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 7:08:11 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
> IIRC, the classes are about front to back radio and sidelobe suppression.
>
> On 11/7/2016 6:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> 2.6' in 11 GHz. I forget who.
>
>
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>
> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 6:34:03 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
> Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz?  Or is 3 foot the
> minimum.
>
>
>
> Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the
> minimum.
>
>
>
> Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
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