Just $1,200+ more per end than an AF11x. You could buy a pair of Cisco SFPs for that savings! At list price! ;)
(Yes, I understand business case vs product cost, just ribbing you a bit.] On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I haven't bought B11s, just while scouting for options, I *COULD* do B11s. > I could also swap them out later for something else like an AlfoPlus2. > > Why would I do a B11? Cheapest 11 GHz link with an SFP. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 10:51:11 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas > > +1 > > Inquiring minds. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 11/7/2016 8:47 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > If you are in a congested RF environment why on earth would you waste the > spectrum on a B11? It only does 256QAM > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:42 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> *nods* I asked about going from a 3' to a 6' SHP dish, no go. >> >> That said, I've got a couple paths in HFT central where I can still do >> B11s. :-) >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 7:39:31 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas >> >> My finger clicked send before my brain. >> >> Interestingly, a RadioWaves HP2-11 has 60dB f/b ratio and is a Cat B. >> While a HP3-11 has 62dB f/b and is Cat A. The VHLP800-11 has 59dB f/b and >> is Cat A while being only 3" smaller in actual diameter vs the HP3-11 >> (35.5" for a "2.5" foot antenna, vs a 38.4" 3 foot). But a bit weaker f/b >> ratio than a HP2. Both are shrouded. I don't get it. I think there may be >> something else like main lobe beamwidth, too. >> >> The problem with all this Cat A vs B stuff is it really doesn't matter >> anymore in congested areas. I had Liz look for a 56MHz channel on a path. >> She said nope. I said, OK, what about changing the 2' end to a 3'. She >> still said nope. Polarity, antenna size, etc., nothing mattered. Out of >> channels is out of channels. Good luck with those funky B11's. >> >> On 11/7/2016 7:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> Yes. Not a size requirement, just a suppression requirement. It's just >> what size of antennas normally meet those requirements. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> <geo...@cbcast.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 7:08:11 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas >> >> IIRC, the classes are about front to back radio and sidelobe suppression. >> >> On 11/7/2016 6:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> 2.6' in 11 GHz. I forget who. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com> >> <li...@smarterbroadband.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 6:34:03 PM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Class A and B antennas >> >> Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz? Or is 3 foot the >> minimum. >> >> >> >> Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the >> minimum. >> >> >> >> Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> > >
