You're right, people were so dumb they kept coming back. /s
On Nov 19, 2016 3:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > Just because there are sales doesn't mean they listen. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:42:04 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? > > Keep in mind that AFMUG and even the WISPA list is an echo chamber. > > What one needs, another does not. There are some very vocal people in > these communities. > > That said, I have spent years talking directly with Matt, Ben, Robert and > many of the developers. They are often out of touch, but sometimes it's > actually myself that is. > > When you can post a 20-40mil gain in a single quarter time after time on a > given line without direct sales, you are doing something right. > > On Nov 19, 2016 11:27 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Seeing what they put out, not having a clue what the competition is >> already doing and the ignoring of their customers and super users means >> they're out of touch. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Saturday, November 19, 2016 9:10:04 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >> >> If they were really that out of touch given the context of the world >> market, they wouldn't have product lines doubling in net revenue quarter >> over quarter. >> >> On Nov 19, 2016 7:27 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, but they have a fundamental problem. Company-wide they are out of >>> touch with their customers and what they need as well as what the rest of >>> the market offers. >>> >>> Examples: >>> >>> Still no SFPs on radios. >>> AF11 has a channel width from the 2000s. >>> AF11 isn't nearly as spectrally efficient as they think it is. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 18, 2016 10:14:45 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >>> >>> I know of a company that already has 8 links deployed that they replaced >>> existing radios with. >>> >>> They built their own radio core. (Second time for UBNT, if you count >>> Invictus core and then this one... Not counting the ones they made before >>> UBNT.) >>> >>> You underestimate them a lot. They're making more money across the board >>> and investing even more money in R&D and labor than they ever have. The >>> past few years they've made major internal changes, and things are just now >>> starting to bare fruit from those decisions. >>> >>> They also have a huge cash reserve, and it wouldn't surprise me at all >>> for them to start making acquisitions if they choose to. >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2016 9:50 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> this isnt my usual asshole distrust of UBNT, I know UBNT chuck is >>>> behind it, so its solid gear, but are people really ready to put their >>>> faith in the limited and $ spectrum on UBNT? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They are designing for a lot of different mounting options, but they >>>>> have to hit the ones that are the easiest sells out the gate. >>>>> >>>>> Stay tuned. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 18, 2016 5:44 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We have RadioWaves HP2 and HP3s' in a couple flavors. HPx-11R, Remec >>>>>> round for Trango ApexPlus and HPx-11EX, for Exalt G2. Then we have Trango >>>>>> AD11G2-S2's and 3-S2's for ApexPlus, Remec round. So obviously we >>>>>> wouldn't >>>>>> be able to do the feedhorn swap on those. >>>>>> >>>>>> The RadioWaves 11EX are single-pol only, so those would need the >>>>>> feedhorn swapped. But the 11R is where it makes sense for the Remec >>>>>> adapter >>>>>> plate, especially in the case of the Trango dishes. >>>>>> >>>>>> So for me it would come down to $250-300? for the adapter plate vs >>>>>> $400? for a new RW feedhorn vs $1k for a whole new dish. >>>>>> >>>>>> This would probably be half as difficult if UBNT would've designed >>>>>> for waveguide, IMO. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/18/2016 2:13 PM, Brad Belton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Right, I see the RadioWaves DP N-Type feed, but we�re >>>>>> looking/hoping someone comes out with a REMEC round to DP N-Type >>>>>> adapter.� >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> Quicker, cheaper than replacing the feed horn and could be used on >>>>>> any antenna with a REMEC round feed horn�not just a RadioWaves antenna. >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> Brad >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 2:08 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> Non-UBNT licensed dish to N connectors and radio mount. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *"Brad Belton" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 18, 2016 2:06:47 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >>>>>> >>>>>> So, what are we looking for?� SFP port? >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> I don�t see any REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapters in >>>>>> your pictures!� <grin> >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> Brad >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 2:02 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/photos/a. >>>>>> 997555730369879.1073741834.186874744771319/997557797036339/?type=3& >>>>>> theater >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *"Brad Belton" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 18, 2016 10:09:25 AM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >>>>>> >>>>>> You'll need to order a new feed horn for your RadioWaves antenna. >>>>>> �I don't >>>>>> have the SKUs yet, but I'm hearing they might be shipping by end of >>>>>> the >>>>>> month or early next. �They are basically a standard dual polarity >>>>>> N-Type >>>>>> feed horn except the feed horn "kit" also comes with a UBNT specific >>>>>> mounting bracket for the radio. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wish there was a REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapter >>>>>> available. >>>>>> Sure would be easier than a feed horn swap...and likely less >>>>>> expensive too. >>>>>> I've got a call into Pasternack to see if such an adapter is even >>>>>> feasible. >>>>>> I'm thinking it is, but would depend on demand. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brad >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <[email protected]>] On Behalf >>>>>> Of Keefe John >>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:59 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >>>>>> >>>>>> What was on the dish you had before? �Can I make these work on a a >>>>>> Radiowaves Dragonwave dish? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/17/2016 8:54 PM, Brad Belton wrote: >>>>>> > DoubleRadius should have them. �Our AF-11X order filled, but >>>>>> waiting on >>>>>> new >>>>>> > RadioWaves dual polarity feed horns before they can be put to use. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Brad >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <[email protected]>] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> > Of Keefe John >>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:17 PM >>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>> > Subject: [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Which distributors will have AF-11X first? �Does anyone have ETAs? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Keefe >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Members mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Members mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Members mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Members mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Members mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>>>> >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Members mailing >>>>>> [email protected]http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>> >>> >> >
