no, chuck, drain cleaner and foil is something you put in pop bottles and throw
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Quick way to make hydrogen is to put some foil in a water solution of > sodium hydroxide (lye) drain cleaner. Cheap, easy, makes lots of gas, > fizzes and gets hot too. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Sunday, December 4, 2016 8:12 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen > > In Jr high I needed hydrogen for a plant experiment I was doing, the > electrolysis method was too slow so I used zinc oxide from non alkaline AA > batteries. Is zinc still a thing in battery production? That could be a > good secondary market for battery recyclers. I used hydrocloric acid > because i had it, but sulfuric would have been more efficient, so the sla > recycling could be combined with the other battery recycling to generate > hydrogen. my method created a shit ton of toxic byproduct I had to > disappear, but i assume that could be addressed at scale > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Interesting perspective >> I can see the cord cutting component of consumer demand putting it on the >> purchased service from a provider, but I just cant wrap my head around >> government rebates on "green" tech being a component of pure capitalism >> since it demands that unwilling participants kick into the kitty for >> individuals to gain benefits, that sounds more socialist, even if it only >> benefits those wealthy enough to buy green tech >> >> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> "just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest, >>> efficientest, its always on somebody elses back" >>> >>> - capitalism >>> >>> Although you could replace from cord cutting to efficientest with >>> "everything" and it would be "samesies" >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2016 5:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> capitalism has no mandate to offset others costs through forcible >>>> taxation that im aware. unless we are talking about the exchange of >>>> responsibilities via voluntary taxation of mileage in exchange for access >>>> to group resources like federal taxes. still not sure id call that strict >>>> capitalism >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You realize what you just described in the strictest sense is called >>>>> capitalism, right? >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 4, 2016 3:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest, >>>>>> efficientest, its always on somebody elses back. if its regulation you >>>>>> want, its regulation you get...to get any, even a single penny, subsidy >>>>>> for >>>>>> "green tech, youre required to come to the dmv twice a yer for an >>>>>> odometer >>>>>> reading and tax form for you to pay your taxes. your vehicle has a huge >>>>>> environmental liability with the batteries (this should make the climate >>>>>> changers cream) so if you dont register a sale of the electric car, and >>>>>> dont get your odometer read, then you just get an annual tax bill for >>>>>> 250,000 miles >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Brian Webster < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Imagine the motorhome also having a solar powered hydrogen fuel cell >>>>>>> to either make the hydrogen or have enough power to recharge the >>>>>>> batteries. >>>>>>> Depending on how far you can go just on batteries and how long it takes >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> recharge on solar, you could pace your travels to be darn near free >>>>>>> driving. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The one thing that governments are starting to struggle with now is >>>>>>> the road taxes that are technically owed. Right now they collect it as >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> gas/fuel pump for every gallon of fuel you purchase. I know in NY state >>>>>>> technically if you own an electric car you are supposed to calculate >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> mileage driven on electric and then enter that on your tax return to >>>>>>> calculate how much you owe in road taxes that you did not pay at a gas >>>>>>> pump. I am sure that is honestly reported by citizens just like they are >>>>>>> supposed to report all of their on line purchases that did not have NY >>>>>>> state sales taxes collected....... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank You, >>>>>>> Brian Webster >>>>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>>>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:39 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is what I want for a motor home, along with autopilot a la >>>>>>> tesla... >>>>>>> The easiest way to see north america as possible... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/02/2016 03:35 PM, George Skorup wrote: >>>>>>> > I would really like to see passenger vehicles and small trucks go >>>>>>> > hybrid hydrogen/electric. Even better would be an any-fuel hybrid >>>>>>> electric. >>>>>>> > Hydrogen, propane or NG and a regular gas tank for reserve. Either >>>>>>> > that, or a gas turbine like an M1 Abrams that can burn anything, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> > it would obviously need to get better fuel economy than 5 gallons >>>>>>> per mile. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On 12/2/2016 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Nikola Motor Company reveals hydrogen fuel cell truck with range >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> >> 1,200 miles - >>>>>>> >> http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-c >>>>>>> ell-truck >>>>>>> >> / >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
