Specially when there is no power to activate the sparkers in the ceiling...

On 12/4/16 6:05 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yep, that is what blows up the reactors.  Lose cooling, make hydrogen,
boom.

-----Original Message----- From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 6:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen

Almost, most hydrogen is produced in the break down of the rod cladding
under excessive heat.   Not a good thing...   When it happens it means
that something in your process is not going to spec..

On 12/4/16 12:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
IIRC, isn't hydrogen a byproduct of the nuclear generation process?
Can't they capture that?



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*From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Sunday, December 4, 2016 2:15:30 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen

tarts or farts?

If you can reform the methane into hydrogen for the fuel cell it would
work, but why not just use an internal combustion engine retrofitted for
CNG.
I am guessing that electricity to hydrogen back to electricity is cycle
they are trying to promote here.
Personally I prefer solar to electricity to an electric car, by passing
the whole hydrogen thing.  Not sure storing energy in hydrogen is all
the beneficial of the hydrogen was originally derived from coal and
natural gas.

Now if it was nuclear – electricity – hydrogen – electricity, then we
are cookin’ with gas.

*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 1:11 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen


Why not just run the motor home off of methane?  There are lots of old
darts driving them right?


On Sun, Dec 4, 2016, 2:09 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    But they use the roads so gently...

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bill Prince
    Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 12:10 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen

    That is already a big issue in CA. There are no simple solutions
to this
    dilemma. There is no question that electric cars use the roads.
The fact
    that they escape paying for the roads is problem we're going to
have to
    solve some way.


    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 12/4/2016 11:05 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
    > Imagine the motorhome also having a solar powered hydrogen fuel
    cell to
    > either make the hydrogen or have enough power to recharge the
    batteries.
    > Depending on how far you can go just on batteries and how long it
    takes to
    > recharge on solar, you could pace your travels to be darn near free
    > driving.
    >
    > The one thing that governments are starting to struggle with now
    is the
    > road taxes that are technically owed. Right now they collect it
as the
    > gas/fuel pump for every gallon of fuel you purchase. I know in NY
    state
    > technically if you own an electric car you are supposed to
    calculate your
    > mileage driven on electric and then enter that on your tax
return to
    > calculate how much you owe in road taxes that you did not pay at
a gas
    > pump. I am sure that is honestly reported by citizens just like
    they are
    > supposed to report all of their on line purchases that did not
have NY
    > state sales taxes collected.......
    >
    > Thank You,
    > Brian Webster
    > www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
    > www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
    > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:39 PM
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen
    >
    > This is what I want for a motor home, along with autopilot a la
    tesla...
    >    The easiest way to see north america as possible...
    >
    > On 12/02/2016 03:35 PM, George Skorup wrote:
    >> I would really like to see passenger vehicles and small trucks go
    >> hybrid hydrogen/electric. Even better would be an any-fuel hybrid
    >> electric.
    >> Hydrogen, propane or NG and a regular gas tank for reserve. Either
    >> that, or a gas turbine like an M1 Abrams that can burn
anything, but
    >> it would obviously need to get better fuel economy than 5
gallons per
    >> mile.
    >>
    >> On 12/2/2016 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
    >>> Nikola Motor Company reveals hydrogen fuel cell truck with
range of
    >>> 1,200 miles -
    >>>
    http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-cell-truck
    >>> /
    >>>



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