Chuck has a point... Study the pros and cons.   Maybe an investment of a
couple of grand with a clause to protect you.... And reap the benefits down
the road

On Dec 14, 2016 2:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> But you may be able to get all the customers for little or nothing if you
> can keep them in service.
> Once they find another service provider, they are gone for good.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread
>
> 250 customers should have been enough to make them viable.  Sounds like
> they built in too much overhead and/or financed instead of bought.   Run
> away, it's a house of straw...
>
> On 12/14/2016 12:58 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
>> Could you negotiate with their upstream yourself if you did decide to
>> buy them? Then it wouldn't take any time to get back online assuming the
>> old provider would continue to provide services. Is the failing WISP
>> just in arrears to their provider?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Yeah... all you really need (or probably even want) is their actual
>>     network (tower rentals, the gear on said towers, and CPE, if they
>>     own those) and the customer list... if there's no real alternative,
>>     I suspect you'd get the majority of the customers if you can get
>>     them back up within a month or so.
>>
>>     On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:44 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         __
>>         still waiting to hear any preliminaries but if they only took
>>         the "head end" and the tower rentals are just that - rentals -
>>         well, i don't need their head end....
>>         but yes, need a lot more information before i can make any
>>         educated decisions.
>>
>>             ----- Original Message -----
>>             *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:02 PM
>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread
>>
>>             Normally it's as simple as: How much does it cost?  How much
>>             can you make?
>>
>>             In this case...can they sell?  Bank took everything, what
>>             assets can they sell to you?
>>
>>
>>             Josh Luthman
>>             Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
>>             Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
>>             1100 Wayne St
>>             Suite 1337
>>             Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>             On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>             <[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                 __
>>                 So there is a WISP near us who we recently started
>>                 coordinating with on frequencies, etc.
>>                 Last Friday, the reached out and asked if we'd like to
>>                 buy them.
>>                 Then later that day they stated they were in a contract
>>                 negotiation with their bandwidth provider and didn't see
>>                 a solution.
>>                 Over the weekend I spoke with someone else who had been
>>                 affiliated with this company and basically their NOC has
>>                 been
>>                 repossessed by the bank.
>>                 Monday they reached out and asked if we might sell them
>>                 bandwidth.  I told them we'd discuss it internally.
>>                 Today I see on their facebook page their fiber is down -
>>                 so this is day one of their going away, I'd assume.
>>                 There is likely no time left for vetting or due
>>                 diligence on reviewing this ISP for purchase so at this
>>                 point it is likely a long shot.
>>                 My question - I assume you would all advise run run run
>>                 as fast as you can.
>>                  From the time a WISP loses their bandwidth (and thus
>>                 can't provide service) what is the rate of customer
>> exodus?
>>                 If we came to an agreement and resumed services say -
>>                 just in time for Christmas - what percentage would you
>>                 all guess
>>                 the customer base would have departed?
>>                 I am told they have 250 + or -
>>                 I don't know if they're in an area where they are losing
>>                 to the incumbent phone provider or cable provider.
>>                 (I know they are in centurylink territory)
>>                 I know our closest tower to them is 18 miles - but
>>                 they're probably six hops from our head end.
>>                 Merry Christmas. :)
>>                 Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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