BTW - their facebook page reports their fiber is back up. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread
Chuck has a point... Study the pros and cons. Maybe an investment of a couple of grand with a clause to protect you.... And reap the benefits down the road On Dec 14, 2016 2:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: But you may be able to get all the customers for little or nothing if you can keep them in service. Once they find another service provider, they are gone for good. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread 250 customers should have been enough to make them viable. Sounds like they built in too much overhead and/or financed instead of bought. Run away, it's a house of straw... On 12/14/2016 12:58 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: Could you negotiate with their upstream yourself if you did decide to buy them? Then it wouldn't take any time to get back online assuming the old provider would continue to provide services. Is the failing WISP just in arrears to their provider? On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yeah... all you really need (or probably even want) is their actual network (tower rentals, the gear on said towers, and CPE, if they own those) and the customer list... if there's no real alternative, I suspect you'd get the majority of the customers if you can get them back up within a month or so. On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:44 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: __ still waiting to hear any preliminaries but if they only took the "head end" and the tower rentals are just that - rentals - well, i don't need their head end.... but yes, need a lot more information before i can make any educated decisions. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:02 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Normally it's as simple as: How much does it cost? How much can you make? In this case...can they sell? Bank took everything, what assets can they sell to you? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: __ So there is a WISP near us who we recently started coordinating with on frequencies, etc. Last Friday, the reached out and asked if we'd like to buy them. Then later that day they stated they were in a contract negotiation with their bandwidth provider and didn't see a solution. Over the weekend I spoke with someone else who had been affiliated with this company and basically their NOC has been repossessed by the bank. Monday they reached out and asked if we might sell them bandwidth. I told them we'd discuss it internally. Today I see on their facebook page their fiber is down - so this is day one of their going away, I'd assume. There is likely no time left for vetting or due diligence on reviewing this ISP for purchase so at this point it is likely a long shot. My question - I assume you would all advise run run run as fast as you can. From the time a WISP loses their bandwidth (and thus can't provide service) what is the rate of customer exodus? If we came to an agreement and resumed services say - just in time for Christmas - what percentage would you all guess the customer base would have departed? I am told they have 250 + or - I don't know if they're in an area where they are losing to the incumbent phone provider or cable provider. (I know they are in centurylink territory) I know our closest tower to them is 18 miles - but they're probably six hops from our head end. Merry Christmas. :) Thanks in advance.
