I think you are right. Perhaps they do now.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 4:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
Did UTOPIA sell dark fiber? I thought they only did bitstream access.
Jared
Chuck McCown wrote:
UTOPIA didn't exactly set the world on fire down here.
-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
The dark fiber loop in my city (Idaho Falls, Idaho) works extremely well
for the entire city. There are many providers, even private companies,
that lease a dark fiber pair and pay the city a monthly rate.
Travis
On 2/1/2017 3:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Who owns the dark fiber network?
>> Government - we all know how good they are at doing things like this.
> Others manage. See for example Stokab owned by the city of Stockholm
> in
> Sweden.
>
>> Private - so we create good old Ma Bell all over again?
> First, it does not have to be a single private company.
>
> Second, the owner being a private company need not be a problem.
> Non-discriminatory access to everybody, at set rates with prohibitions
> against cross-ownership and the offering of retail services. See
> examples
> from other industries with wholesale infrastructure providers and
> structural separation in the telecom industry.
>
> Third, there's a pretty big difference between recreating Ma Bell and
> creating a (regional) dark fiber company that does nothing else than
> rent
> dark fiber.
>
>> Existing carriers forced to open their networks? OK if you like the
>> Venezuela solution to things.
> My proposal does not require existing carriers to open up their
> networks.
>
>> New networks built by low bidder defense contractor? Great,
>> replication
>> and tax bite too.
> Where did this come from? I said nothing about defense contractors or
> tax financing.
>
>
> Jared
>
