So you mean you go to Fiber Store and order one that is coded for
Alphion?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/22/2017 9:23:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
You can buy third party Alphion optics, if that's who you are talking
about. And yes, they work.
On Mar 21, 2017 7:05 PM, "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]> wrote:
It's not open standard. They key their optics like calix.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
wrote:
Seriously though... Alphion obviously doesn't have the level of
software toys/tools that Calix does obviously, but when the cost is
like 1/8th, you can spend that money on contractors and OLTs and ONTs
and get way more subs installed much faster - and it's something that
is still based on open standards.
That's a hard business proposition to ignore.
On Mar 6, 2017 6:59 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote:
haha… yeah fair enough ;)
On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
wrote:
It can be different when you're the one paying for it :)
On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Interesting …. do they work ok?
I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff …
considerably more than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from
China and it was total junk in my opinion - some people like it ..
not my thing.
On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]>
wrote:
I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics
and Power Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10
depending on the split. Check Alibaba.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and
throw in another OLT if needed.
On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment
was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in
cabinets.
Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into
the future.
I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which
might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super
high FDX.
AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old
I can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I
want to carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super
cheap, and it’s essentially backwards compatible with GPON if
your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again, lots of
power is required.
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck
McCown
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and
multiple wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the
OSP has to change. All the splitters etc still work. That
will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at
the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G
symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
From: Carlos Alcantar
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
to add to this post with the new PON technologies being
released this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non
issue.
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> /
[email protected] / http://www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
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From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of George Skorup
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using
cell phones and watching Netflix.
The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources
for the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week
and turn up another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less
than 100Mbps every night. The network owner was convinced that
everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize how much
electronics and power is required for 1k ports. There's less
than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a
neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and
it works fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing
to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it.
On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Alphion does, yes.
On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
wrote:
What kind of costs are you talking?
Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports?
Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
-----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent:
Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] ;
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject:
[AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of
AE this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned
Alphion. Has anyone deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a
good solution. Or what else have you used for small
deployments?
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Regards,
Chuck
