LOL if they did...
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:49:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON I assume ZTE doesn't care about SFP branding? On 3/21/2017 7:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: It's not open standard. They key their optics like calix. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Seriously though... Alphion obviously doesn't have the level of software toys/tools that Calix does obviously, but when the cost is like 1/8th, you can spend that money on contractors and OLTs and ONTs and get way more subs installed much faster - and it's something that is still based on open standards. That's a hard business proposition to ignore. On Mar 6, 2017 6:59 PM, "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> haha… yeah fair enough ;) <blockquote> <blockquote> On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> It can be different when you're the one paying for it :) </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> Interesting …. do they work ok? I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing. </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg < [email protected] > wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10 depending on the split. Check Alibaba. </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> Regards, Chuck </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup < [email protected] > wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in another OLT if needed. On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: <blockquote> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1. On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets. Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future. I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split? The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX. AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again, lots of power is required. From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change. All the splitters etc still work. That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom. From: Carlos Alcantar Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / [email protected] / http://www.race.com From: Af < [email protected] > on behalf of George Skorup < [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and watching Netflix. The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets fix this now! We'll see what happens. Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it. On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: <blockquote> Alphion does, yes. On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> What kind of costs are you talking? Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports? Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low. -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small deployments? </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> -- Regards, Chuck </blockquote>
