I assume ZTE doesn't care about SFP branding?
On 3/21/2017 7:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
It's not open standard. They key their optics like calix.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Seriously though... Alphion obviously doesn't have the level of
software toys/tools that Calix does obviously, but when the cost
is like 1/8th, you can spend that money on contractors and OLTs
and ONTs and get way more subs installed much faster - and it's
something that is still based on open standards.
That's a hard business proposition to ignore.
On Mar 6, 2017 6:59 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
haha… yeah fair enough ;)
On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It can be different when you're the one paying for it :)
On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Interesting …. do they work ok?
I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff …
considerably more than that. I did look at some DWDM
stuff from China and it was total junk in my opinion -
some people like it .. not my thing.
On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class
Optics and Power Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25.
PLC's from $2-10 depending on the split. Check Alibaba.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to
16:1 and throw in another OLT if needed.
On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their
initial deployment was 64x1. The company I just got
off the ground did 16x1.
On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
AE gets to be a headache with power costs and
heat control in cabinets.
Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and
probably well into the future.
I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1
max split?
The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to
the limits, which might cause some re-splicing
down the road if you want super high FDX.
AE doesn’t have that problem even with
equipment a decade old I can still supply the
same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to
carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is
super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards
compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs
are short like mine. But again, lots of power
is required.
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
*Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per
wavelength and multiple wavelengths all
overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to
change. All the splitters etc still work.
That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps
symmetrical all at the same time. So
oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G
symmetrical to everyone and probably not run
out of headroom.
*From:*Carlos Alcantar
*Sent:*Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
to add to this post with the new PON
technologies being released this year giving
everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314
<tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> / [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>/ http://www.race.com
<http://www.race.com/>
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*From:*Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of
George Skorup <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
I'm not really worried about POTS and RF.
Everyone is using cell phones and watching Netflix.
The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment
and resources for the utilization we're seeing.
I have to go there next week and turn up
another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging
less than 100Mbps every night. The network
owner was convinced that everyone had to have
1G FDX. They just don't realize how much
electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
There's less than 100 customers so far, so
please, for the love of god, lets fix this now!
We'll see what happens.
Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on
our own is a neighborhood of rich bitches. We
already have PMP450 there and it works fine.
They "want more speed" and if they're willing
to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it.
On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Alphion does, yes.
On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
What kind of costs are you talking?
Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS
ports?
Sterling is AE, I know his costs are
pretty low.
-----Original Message----- From: George
Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017
8:39 PM To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ;
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> Subject:
[AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
We're looking to do another "fiberhood"
with GPON instead of AE this time
around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned
Alphion. Has anyone deployed the
AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution.
Or what else have you used for small
deployments?
--
Regards,
Chuck
