Look forward to getting some when your

ready

Mitch


On 03/25/2017 09:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
That is exactly what it is.  Universal for all POE products.
*From:* Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:16 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
>>
The external in line fuse product is ready for prototyping.
Let us know how this goes, if the test are successful, I would suggest making an 'external in-line fuse', which would make for a quick retrofit for existing modules out there .
Thanks.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
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    *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
    *To: *[email protected]
    *Sent: *Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:38:12 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top or
    bottom.  If it is POE and powered by a passive source you run a
    risk of smoking it with any surge suppressor.
    I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put
    inline with Netonix.  The second is adding fusing to my surge
    protectors if I can fit it in.  The external in line fuse product
    is ready for prototyping.
    *From:* David Coudron
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    We are also very interested in this topic.   We will be building
    out 10 new towers in the next few months, and will be making the
    change to Netonix switches (we had previously used a different
    type of switch).  I the past we had put Transtector surge
    protectors on the tower top and in the cabinet on the ground. From
    what you are saying in thread, we should not plan on surge
    protectors in the cabinet, but what is the recommended change for
    the tower top, if any?

    Thanks,

    *David Coudron*

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    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to
ground, you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer. It will not protect itself against shorts.

    *From:*Josh Baird

    *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM

    *To:*[email protected]

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge
    protectors before connecting to Netonix.


    On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

        Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix,
        irrespective of manufacturer.

        *From:*[email protected]

        *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM

        *To:*[email protected]

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

        So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors
        that are connected to Netonix?

        On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            I am going to fix this little problem...

            Netonix will fix your port for something like $25

            *From:*Bill Prince

            *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM

            *To:*[email protected]

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

            Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium
            surge suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix.
            We were swapping from something else that had been on the
            cable, and completely forgot that it was going through
            that surge suppressor. Hard lesson learned.

            bp

            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

            On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

                OK,  had an exchange with Netonix today.  It is just
                as Matt Hoppes said. You short out their POE and it
                will blow the Ethernet transformer.

                I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that
                could detect and shut down in an over current
                situation. They do have poly fuses which are slow to
                react and may protect it from a very brief short, but
                longer shorts will indeed harm the port feeding the
                transformer.

                So, Netonix is not active POE.  I would say that on
                passive POE a plain surge suppressor should not be
                used.  I am working some “non plain” surge suppressors
                now.... ;-) Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big
thanks to Matt for forcing me to learn something new. It was painful, but I can do painful things when I
                have to.

                *From:*Chuck McCown

                *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM

                *To:*[email protected]

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

                tnx

                *From:*Josh Luthman

                *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM

                *To:*[email protected]

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

                chris.sisler

                ( A )

                netlinx.net <http://netlinx.net>

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                        Anyone know the email for the guy that runs
                    Netonix?



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