LOL Nice way to order a vendor
Josh

Mitch


On 03/26/2017 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Please make it one size fits all. Like the gigE HV. I'm not stocking 3 products for 1 job.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Peddling my bike as fast as I can go.  I think it will be a no
    case product.  Two shielded RJ45s, PCB.  8 LEDS.  4 on one side of
    the fuses, 4 on the other so you can see if any of the fuses have
    blown.  Bare PCB design.  Perhaps painted with the LEDS showing
through the paint. I think I can fit it all in a 2 inch PCB. Short shielded CAT5 jumper.
    *From:* Mitch Koep
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:14 PM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    Look forward to getting some when your

    ready

    Mitch


    On 03/25/2017 09:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    That is exactly what it is.  Universal for all POE products.
    *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:16 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix
    >>
    The external in line fuse product is ready for prototyping.
    Let us know how this goes, if the test are successful, I would
    suggest making an 'external in-line fuse', which would make for a
    quick retrofit for existing modules out there .
    Thanks.
    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    7266 SW 48 Street
    Miami, FL 33155
    Tel: 305 663 5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> x 232

    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> Option 2 or
    Email: [email protected]
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

        *From: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]

        *To: *[email protected]
        *Sent: *Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:38:12 AM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

        I would not put any surge protection on Netonix period, top
        or bottom.  If it is POE and powered by a passive source you
        run a risk of smoking it with any surge suppressor.
        I have two devices designed, one is an ancillary fuse to put
        inline with Netonix.  The second is adding fusing to my surge
        protectors if I can fit it in.  The external in line fuse
        product is ready for prototyping.
        *From:* David Coudron
        *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

        We are also very interested in this topic.   We will be
        building out 10 new towers in the next few months, and will
        be making the change to Netonix switches (we had previously
        used a different type of switch).  I the past we had put
        Transtector surge protectors on the tower top and in the
        cabinet on the ground.   From what you are saying in thread,
        we should not plan on surge protectors in the cabinet, but
        what is the recommended change for the tower top, if any?

        Thanks,

        *David Coudron*

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        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
        McCown
        *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

        If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to
        ground, you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE
        transformer.  It will not protect itself against shorts.

        *From:*Josh Baird

        *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM

        *To:*[email protected]

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

        What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge
        protectors before connecting to Netonix.


        On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
        wrote:

            Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to
            Netonix, irrespective of manufacturer.

            *From:*[email protected]

            *Sent:*Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM

            *To:*[email protected]

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

            So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge
            suppressors that are connected to Netonix?

            On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                I am going to fix this little problem...

                Netonix will fix your port for something like $25

                *From:*Bill Prince

                *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM

                *To:*[email protected]

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

                Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a
                Cambium surge suppressor, and it fragged the port on
                the Netonix. We were swapping from something else
                that had been on the cable, and completely forgot
                that it was going through that surge suppressor. Hard
                lesson learned.

                bp

                <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

                    OK,  had an exchange with Netonix today.  It is
                    just as Matt Hoppes said. You short out their POE
                    and it will blow the Ethernet transformer.

                    I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest
                    that could detect and shut down in an over
                    current situation. They do have poly fuses which
                    are slow to react and may protect it from a very
                    brief short, but longer shorts will indeed harm
                    the port feeding the transformer.

                    So, Netonix is not active POE.  I would say that
                    on passive POE a plain surge suppressor should
                    not be used.  I am working some “non plain” surge
                    suppressors now.... ;-) Stay tuned to this bat
                    channel and a big thanks to Matt for forcing me
                    to learn something new.  It was painful, but I
                    can do painful things when I have to.

                    *From:*Chuck McCown

                    *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM

                    *To:*[email protected]

                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

                    tnx

                    *From:*Josh Luthman

                    *Sent:*Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM

                    *To:*[email protected]

                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

                    chris.sisler

                    ( A )

                    netlinx.net <http://netlinx.net>

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown
                    <[email protected]> wrote:

                            Anyone know the email for the guy that
                        runs Netonix?



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