Totally true, it never took effect, so nothing changes.  Folks love it when the 
sky is falling.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:50 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

Somebody posted the link to the WISPA filing on this in the other thread 
here... there is more going on here than the stuff about selling information 
that's stuck all over the news. 

Maybe it is a big corporate handout, in some ways, but as far as I can tell, 
it's good for the likes of us in every way. We've already had several customers 
worried that we're going to sell there information, and being able to tell them 
that we have no intention of ever doing so is a good selling point to those 
people... sure, the main reason that we aren't going to sell that info may be 
because we don't have it, and we're too small for anybody to want it even if we 
did, but that's beside the point.


As far as I know, it hadn't ever actually taken effect anyway, so despite what 
you'd think from what's on the news, nothing is actually changing from how it 
always has been.


On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Jason McKemie 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  This is a big corporate handout, no need to get conspiracy theories involved.

  On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:

    One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when supporting 
this bill.  They know Google has been supplying and manipulating data and 
search engines for the Democrats for years.  Hell, they started a company 
specifically to do just that.  I think the Republicans are looking at having 
access to that data as being important.



    Rory 





    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
    Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge



    It’s true, and it is the core business case of many other social network 
companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not to 
use the only ISP in their market?



    Peter Kranz
    www.UnwiredLtd.com
    Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
    Mobile: 510-207-0000
    [email protected]



    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
    Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge



    I heard a comment today that I had not thought about.  Apparently Google 
has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have the same rights.  
Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this information never crossed their 
minds.



    Rory



    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
    Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:30 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge



    While the FCC’s proposed “Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband 
and Other Telecommunication Services” rule might not have been perfect, and 
potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I think the basic 
concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding pledge that small 
ISPs and WISPS can sign up that I feel will demonstrate one of the clear 
differentiators between us and larger ISPs who seek to commodify every aspect 
of their customer’s usage.



    Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/ 



    I’m open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this, but to 
try to get some visibility for our industry and its unique respect for the end 
user.



    Peter Kranz
    www.UnwiredLtd.com
    Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
    Mobile: 510-207-0000
    [email protected]




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