Sorry, I couldn't help it.
https://xkcd.com/386/
Good luck with the Privacy Pledge thing.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Steve D" <[email protected]>
To: "af" <[email protected]>
Sent: 3/31/2017 10:58:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
Peter is getting the ball rolling on a piece of marketing for something
small isp's are probably doing anyway and to help drive people from the
big dogs. I'd say sign up, and astro-turf this into every Reddit , ars
Technica , whatever comment section that talks about this stuff and get
some people aware of your existence. This is an opportunity for good
word of mouth for your business.
Or keep bickering about political bullshit. Whatever.
On Mar 31, 2017 6:56 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:
I wasn't gonna say anything.
I did read the article, and the wikileaks email it cites. The problem
is not that the source is Julian Assange, it's that it's Julian
Assange's opinion. The cited email doesn't say Google is feeding data
to Hillary. Jared Coen (Google Exec) is informing Hillary (via her
staff) about data in Syria that he's putting on a public map. During
the date on the email, Clinton was Secretary of State. The cited
email does not say anything about the relationship: it doesn't say
whether Jared Coen was doing a favor for Clinton or whether Google was
working as a contractor for the State Department.
The rest of the claims are inferred either by Assange or by the
Author.
.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 3/31/2017 4:46:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
WikiLeaks releases only what they feel will help their agenda, which
also happens to be Putin's agenda. I don't watch Rachel Maddow, so I
can't speak to anything she does. The New York Times has
significantly more journalistic integrity than Brietbart.
On Friday, March 31, 2017, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
wrote:
So Wikieleaks hasn’t published any fake data ever, but because
Brietbart writes about it, that means it’s fake data. But if the
New York Times or Rachel Maddow said the same thing, you would
accept that as truth. And you don’t see a problem with that?
Rory
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 12:40 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
It's not evidence if it is made up or slanted to serve an agenda.
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Rory Conaway
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yea, I believe WickieLeaks but nice try. It’s amazing that you care
more about the source of the writing than the evidence the brought
forth. This information, although sparse, is accurate. I’m sure
that you don’t believe Google employees were working in the
administration and had nothing to do with the Net Neutrality Act or
the 20 pages redacted from that act that nobody saw.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:17 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
+Graham's number.
They're about as dependable and un-biased as Fox "News".
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:
You believe Breitbart?!?!?
What planet you live on?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/30/2017 7:12 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/
<http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/>
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:50 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
Wha?
citation?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 3/30/2017 9:47:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when
supporting this bill. They know Google has been supplying and
manipulating data and search engines for the Democrats for years.
Hell, they started a company specifically to do just that. I
think the Republicans are looking at having access to that data as
being important.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
It’s true, and it is the core business case of many other social
network companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How
do they choose not to use the only ISP in their market?
Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:(510)%20868-1614>
Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:(510)%20207-0000>
[email protected]
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
I heard a comment today that I had not thought about. Apparently
Google has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to
have the same rights. Of course, prohibiting Google from selling
this information never crossed their minds.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:30 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
While the FCC’s proposed “Protecting the Privacy of Customers of
Broadband and Other Telecommunication Services” rule might not
have been perfect, and potentially difficult to implement for
small ISPs and WISPS, I think the basic concept was sound. I
created a simple non-legally binding pledge that small ISPs and
WISPS can sign up that I feel will demonstrate one of the clear
differentiators between us and larger ISPs who seek to commodify
every aspect of their customer’s usage.
Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/
I’m open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this,
but to try to get some visibility for our industry and its unique
respect for the end user.
Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <tel:(510)%20868-1614>
Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:(510)%20207-0000>
[email protected]
