Peter is getting the ball rolling on a piece of marketing for something small isp's are probably doing anyway and to help drive people from the big dogs. I'd say sign up, and astro-turf this into every Reddit , ars Technica , whatever comment section that talks about this stuff and get some people aware of your existence. This is an opportunity for good word of mouth for your business.
Or keep bickering about political bullshit. Whatever. On Mar 31, 2017 6:56 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote: > I wasn't gonna say anything. > > I did read the article, and the wikileaks email it cites. The problem is > not that the source is Julian Assange, it's that it's Julian Assange's > *opinion*. The cited email doesn't say Google is feeding data to > Hillary. Jared Coen (Google Exec) is informing Hillary (via her staff) > about data in Syria that he's putting on a public map. During the date on > the email, Clinton was Secretary of State. The cited email does not say > anything about the relationship: it doesn't say whether Jared Coen was > doing a favor for Clinton or whether Google was working as a contractor for > the State Department. > > The rest of the claims are inferred either by Assange or by the Author. > . > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: 3/31/2017 4:46:47 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge > > WikiLeaks releases only what they feel will help their agenda, which also > happens to be Putin's agenda. I don't watch Rachel Maddow, so I can't speak > to anything she does. The New York Times has significantly more > journalistic integrity than Brietbart. > > On Friday, March 31, 2017, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So Wikieleaks hasn’t published any fake data ever, but because Brietbart >> writes about it, that means it’s fake data. But if the New York Times or >> Rachel Maddow said the same thing, you would accept that as truth. And you >> don’t see a problem with that? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 12:40 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge >> >> >> >> It's not evidence if it is made up or slanted to serve an agenda. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Yea, I believe WickieLeaks but nice try. It’s amazing that you care more >> about the source of the writing than the evidence the brought forth. This >> information, although sparse, is accurate. I’m sure that you don’t believe >> Google employees were working in the administration and had nothing to do >> with the Net Neutrality Act or the 20 pages redacted from that act that >> nobody saw. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:17 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge >> >> >> >> +Graham's number. >> >> >> >> They're about as dependable and un-biased as Fox "News". >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You believe Breitbart?!?!? >> >> What planet you live on? >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 3/30/2017 7:12 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: >> >> http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says >> -google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:50 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge >> >> >> >> Wha? >> >> citation? >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: 3/30/2017 9:47:45 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge >> >> >> >> One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when supporting >> this bill. They know Google has been supplying and manipulating data and >> search engines for the Democrats for years. Hell, they started a company >> specifically to do just that. I think the Republicans are looking at >> having access to that data as being important. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge >> >> >> >> It’s true, and it is the core business case of many other social network >> companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not >> to use the only ISP in their market? >> >> >> >> >> *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-1614> >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 <(510)%20207-0000> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge >> >> >> >> I heard a comment today that I had not thought about. Apparently Google >> has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have the same >> rights. Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this information never >> crossed their minds. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:30 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge >> >> >> >> While the FCC’s proposed “Protecting the Privacy of Customers of >> Broadband and Other Telecommunication Services” rule might not have been >> perfect, and potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I >> think the basic concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding >> pledge that small ISPs and WISPS can sign up that I feel will demonstrate >> one of the clear differentiators between us and larger ISPs who seek to >> commodify every aspect of their customer’s usage. >> >> >> >> Check it out at http://privacypledge.us/ >> >> >> >> I’m open to comments or revisions, as my goal is not to own this, but to >> try to get some visibility for our industry and its unique respect for the >> end user. >> >> >> >> >> *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-1614> >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 <(510)%20207-0000> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
