I wonder how conservative the rate selection is....probably vendor dependent I suppose.

Found this chart on Wikipedia. Looks like 30a is a larger channel with the same tx power. So just like with wireless, you would increase the power density on your channel by using the smaller channel size, and you'd eliminate at least a couple db worth of noise Seems to me if I didn't need the throughput then my connection would be a little more robust on the smaller channel.




------ Original Message ------
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 4/3/2017 3:42:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

They train up just like the old dial up modems.  Just can’t hear it.

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 1:30 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

There must be a minimum SNR for each speed.
I wonder if there's a bridge like that with automatic rate selection....seems like a feature you'd want.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 4/3/2017 3:24:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

And what if I have high line noise?


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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Mitch Koep <[email protected]> wrote:
Josh

no 30a is better as long as you have low line noise

Mitch


On 04/03/2017 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'd be happy with say 10 or 20 megs, it's only for a few WiFi residents. I'm looking more for reliability than speed.

Would 17 MHz be more reliable than 30 MHz?


Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:
the main thing to look for with a VDSL2 converter bridge pair is, will it do the 30a profile (30MHz). Depending on how noisy your lines are or loop length you may need to flip a switch to change between 17a profile or 30a. But ideally 30a profile should actually have slightly more bandwidth that is required to bridge 100BaseTX at line rate.

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
Those both look perfect!  Even better than I was hoping.

I'm going to try the Planet one since it's cheaper+I know the name.


Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
Google gave me this one:
http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec>

100FD at 300m.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 4/3/2017 10:54:14 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I'm looking for something I believe was discussed here multiple times. I have old copper going between a few stories in the building and I need to get bandwidth up there. Isn't there some box that people have used that will run with 2 wire or any kind of wire essentially and then you have 100baseT?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




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