The power taps are what would kill anything but a very dense deployment.
Anything less and you'd be better off just running fiber.

On Monday, May 8, 2017, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the 30 degree sector Ignitenet has is something like 18dbi, vs
> 25dbi for their bigger directional... I tried to get a pair of Metrolinqs
> to work at just under a mile (which should theoretically work), but I never
> could get them to link. I tested at about half that distance and it worked
> fine... I don't remember what the signal was, but I thought at the time
> that it would probably link with 17dbi less antenna. Even so, 1000' should
> be workable, which still has a lot of potential. I've been toying with the
> idea of putting them on street lights - I'm thinking you could do something
> like one 30 degree sector at the end of each street and cover a block or
> two.
>
> Heck, even if you only figured 500'-1000', you could build a network
> pretty cheaply using street lights.
>
> Of course it is only going to be useful in pretty specific areas... at the
> majority of our towers 60ghz is going to be completely worthless, but I can
> certainly find places where it would work.
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eric.kuh...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Even if it existed 2000 ft is wildly optimistic. 60 GHz works at 600
>> meters (just about 2000 ft for you Americans) between two PTP dishes
>> because you have 44-45dBi gain dishes on both ends. Would not be the case
>> with any sort of 60 GHz sector antenna, you'd be looking at much less gain.
>>
>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Very location specific. None of our towers would be able to serve anyone
>>> with that kind of range.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/2017 2:15 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed... don't underestimate what can be done with a 2000' range. I can
>>> probably cover a hundred houses with that from the tower next to where I'm
>>> sitting.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I concur
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of
>>>> Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net');>>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>"
>>>> <af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
>>>> Date: Monday, May 8, 2017 at 4:31 PM
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
>>>> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?
>>>>
>>>> Lots.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lots of places.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’ve got, and can get fiber up main roads in neighborhoods very easily.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What costs me is the last mile backbone that winds across streets and
>>>> through ROW in front of houses etc.
>>>>
>>>> That is the majority of my costs right there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I can get in with ‘normal’ wireless pricing per AP/CPE but at
>>>> 1000Mbps I can do the hybrid model easily at much less costs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It will be amazing for potential customers at the moment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Might not hold up over time as bandwidth needs increase, but provides
>>>> an immediate solution at a fraction of the cost of fiber, with the ‘feel’
>>>> of fiber.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of 
>>>> *Colin
>>>> Stanners
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 8, 2017 2:29 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many places do you want to install a PtMP system that goes a
>>>> maximum of 1000-2000ft distance, that fiber does not work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing here?
>>>>
>>>> Can't Cambium and UBNT and others simply overlay the same radio
>>>> architecture/software they have developed over a decade, on top of a 60GHz
>>>> radio instead of 5Ghz?
>>>>
>>>> Is there some fundamental problem with using the same PHY later
>>>> protocols on 60GHz vs 5GHz?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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