massive MIMO and..... wait for it..... metered billing or datacaps (unlimited LOLZ)
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > I think the metered ship has sailed. People are going to have to figure > out how to get big pipes into and throughout their networks. > > Our PtMP vendors are going to have to step it up as well. The cellular > guys are moving to massive MIMO on everything. We'll have to do that too. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Mark - Myakka Technologies" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:06:53 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? > > Simon, > > But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing. Does the > baby need to be falling asleep watching a 4K movie? The best way I can put > it is renting an apartment with utilities included. If I'm renting an > apartment in FL with electric included, my AC is going to be set at 68 > 24/7. The cat will be very comfortable all day, why should I care. > However, if I'm paying for electric, the cat will have to deal with 78 > during the day and I may have to deal with 72 when I get home. > > Bandwidth prices are dropping for some, but for others it is still > expensive. Not to mention the HW costs to upgrade your network to handle > the higher bandwidth internally. > > 4K tvs cost more to buy than 1080 or 720 TV's. Why should someone who is > willing to stream at 720 or pay for satellite TV, be forced to pay the same > as that guy that wants to watch in 4K. Why should a single person who just > needs dependable fast internet occasionally be force to pay the same amount > as the family with 6 kids and 30 devices? Why should the kid willing to > buy his game on a disc be forced to pay the same as the guy who doesn't > want to get up off the couch to change a disc? > > Why is it we are the only industry that is expected to deliver a top notch > fast and reliable service at a single low price. The electric company gets > to charge per KW, the all you can eat buffet charges per person, the cell > phone company charges per device, cable/satellite charges per box, hell > even the streaming companies get to put limits on the number of people that > can stream per account. Why is it when we ask a heavy user to pay their > fair share all hell breaks lose and we are the greedy bastards? > > > > > > *-- Best regards, Mark *mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]> > > > *Myakka Technologies, Inc. *www.MyakkaTech.com > > > *Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life * > http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL > > *Please Donate at Please Donate at *http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html > > > > > *------ Wednesday, June 21, 2017, 1:11:27 PM, you wrote: * > > The problem with metered billing is that it doesn't solve the problem. The > customer still purchased a game they want to download, or they have a 4K TV > they want to watch movies on. Most people are just going to look for other > options if they have to pay every time they try to use a device in their > household, and even if people are willing to pay, you still have to be able > to deliver enough service to them to give them the speeds they want. > > Until there is more spectrum available, I think DPI is a much better > solution.. you can deprioritize and shape things like game downloads, and > prioritize/shape their video streaming. I wish there was a better option, > but I really don't think implementing UBB is a solution to this problem. It > may give you more money to build up your network a bit, but it is poison to > most customer's ears, and it won't change their behavior that much unless > it's extremely painful for them financially. > > On 6/21/2017 10:51 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > metered billing.. wave of the future > > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > I read some scary stuff the other day along a similar vein. > > Basically if you're selling 25mbps then you'll need a 4:1 oversubscription > ratio to support peak hours hi def streaming without complaint. > As adoption of 4K video increases, that ratio will approach 1:1. You'll > have to either start supplying 100meg, or start billing for > consumption....or jack the price way up. > > They were looking only at streaming video trends, and didn't even consider > stuff like this. > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Jeremy" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: 6/21/2017 1:03:09 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? > > > Yeah, this sucks for us. Even worse, many of these games come out with > dual licenses so that you can play on Windows 10 or XB1 for the same > purchase. I bought a couple games and checked it out. It was amazing to > be able to just continue my Halo Wars right where I left off on my laptop, > but it was double the download size. This makes Forza potentially 200GB, > without DLC. When you are providing customers 300-500GB per month without > overages it makes heavy Xbox customers very quickly switch providers. I'm > not sure if that is a blessing or a curse. For now, it has not been a > gigantic churn issue for us, but the future of 4K content will likely hit > us all pretty hard. > > My main issue with this is that purchasing a disc is not an option. I > initially bought discs, only to find that even after ripping them to the > hard drive, I have to walk down to the network closet to insert the disc. > Digitally purchased games can just be loaded from a menu, like all of the > hacked consoles. There is no option to 'upgrade' to a digital license if > you have purchased a disc. Also, if you own multiple Xbox One consoles > (say at home and at work), you can play any of your games on either > console, at any time, just not simultaneously. Discs are now useless to > me. The only way to get this digital license is to download it from the > Internet (or hack the console...not yet an option). This has been a big > bummer to heavy Xbox users when they get hit with massive overages, and > they usually switch to Comcast. > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> > wrote: > > This will be the new normal with the next generation Xbox, when many > customers start bringing them home... > > https://m.hardocp.com/news/2017/06/18/forza_motorsport_7_ > will_be_100gb_download > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Email: [email protected] > Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The future of ISP billing and OSS > https://sonar.software > >
