+1000

Not Telcos here Right??


On 7/31/2017 6:05 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Me. It's a 6 count drop cable and only two of the fibers are actually used, so four splices total. I have two $17 outdoor interconnect boxes in stock. I have some practice with these boxes now, so I can do setup and teardown in 30 minutes for each end. A few minutes for each actual splice. I do know the pull through the conduit will be easy and a second guy is doing that while I work on the first splices....then I'll move the splicer and re-setup at the other end after he's done. We'll be done in two hours, 4 man hours total. I don't really have any doubts about that.

Whoever said I didn't provide enough details was right, but there they are now.

If I only bill for T&M then we're a victim of our own efficiency. I guess they'll have to pay whatever we tell them, but I'd rather have a rationale for charging a certain price. I'll figure it out, but I was curious how other people do it. I'd love to charge $1500, but the T&M adds up to maybe $600. If I added $50 per fusion splice then I'd only be at $800. I can add $700 because I said so, but I'd rather not put on a line item that says "Greed fee."




------ Original Message ------
From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 7/31/2017 5:32:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair

Better question is who can build out two splice cases, pull the fiber, and splice it all in four hours? Unless this is something like 12ct fiber and an easy little splice case, it is going to take way longer then that. I've had guys take 8 hours to do a 48 strand cable to a couple 24 node drop cables. They are new at it though.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    per splice removes the speed issue
    one guy can do maybe 10 an hour, one guy 5
    normalizes costs
    plus its a specific dedicated piece of equipment, have to recoup
    that at a specific rate
    my guy charges 70 per non bulk splice, I think that's fair

    On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Sterling Jacobson
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I think it’s around $5-$6 a foot is the metric for retail runs.

        So that’s $6 x 200 = $1200 total.

        Maybe a bit extra depending on the vaults and splice cases
        used in your case since it’s a shorter run.

        *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
        *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:49 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair

        It's about $100 in materials which I already have and 4 hours
        of labor.

        Just at T&M I feel like I'm way too low, which probably means
        I should change how I'm billing it.  :)

        So how do you arrive at $1500? What's the math?

        ------ Original Message ------

        From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>

        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

        Sent: 7/31/2017 4:39:00 PM

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair

            Sounds like at least a $1500 job to me...

            On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Adam Moffett
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I'm curious what some of you guys might charge for
                running 200' of new cable through a conduit, adding a
                splice case at both ends of the conduit, and splicing
                the old cable to the new section.

                This is on private property and the existing cable
                was broken (bent into a hairpin by outside trauma)
                just outside the conduit. There's not enough sticking
                out of the pipe to put a splice there, so I have to
                run a new piece through the conduit.

                I guess the scope of work isn't that important
                though. I'm more interested in how you bill it. I
                know some people use an hourly rate for installing
                the cable and then a flat fee per splice.  Is there a
                justification for charging per splice as opposed to
                charging for T&M?  Is it to recoup the cost of the
                splicer perhaps?





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