Get a quote from the alternate suppliers of goods and services and charge a bit less assuming you are covering your costs and getting a good bit of profit from it. Anytime you lowball just to get work you may as well change careers. Also, deeply undercutting competitors harms everyone.
From: Mitch Koep Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair +1000 Not Telcos here Right?? On 7/31/2017 6:05 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Me. It's a 6 count drop cable and only two of the fibers are actually used, so four splices total. I have two $17 outdoor interconnect boxes in stock. I have some practice with these boxes now, so I can do setup and teardown in 30 minutes for each end. A few minutes for each actual splice. I do know the pull through the conduit will be easy and a second guy is doing that while I work on the first splices....then I'll move the splicer and re-setup at the other end after he's done. We'll be done in two hours, 4 man hours total. I don't really have any doubts about that. Whoever said I didn't provide enough details was right, but there they are now. If I only bill for T&M then we're a victim of our own efficiency. I guess they'll have to pay whatever we tell them, but I'd rather have a rationale for charging a certain price. I'll figure it out, but I was curious how other people do it. I'd love to charge $1500, but the T&M adds up to maybe $600. If I added $50 per fusion splice then I'd only be at $800. I can add $700 because I said so, but I'd rather not put on a line item that says "Greed fee." ------ Original Message ------ From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected]> To: mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: 7/31/2017 5:32:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair Better question is who can build out two splice cases, pull the fiber, and splice it all in four hours? Unless this is something like 12ct fiber and an easy little splice case, it is going to take way longer then that. I've had guys take 8 hours to do a 48 strand cable to a couple 24 node drop cables. They are new at it though. On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: per splice removes the speed issue one guy can do maybe 10 an hour, one guy 5 normalizes costs plus its a specific dedicated piece of equipment, have to recoup that at a specific rate my guy charges 70 per non bulk splice, I think that's fair On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> wrote: I think it’s around $5-$6 a foot is the metric for retail runs. So that’s $6 x 200 = $1200 total. Maybe a bit extra depending on the vaults and splice cases used in your case since it’s a shorter run. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair It's about $100 in materials which I already have and 4 hours of labor. Just at T&M I feel like I'm way too low, which probably means I should change how I'm billing it. :) So how do you arrive at $1500? What's the math? ------ Original Message ------ From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 7/31/2017 4:39:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair Sounds like at least a $1500 job to me... On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: I'm curious what some of you guys might charge for running 200' of new cable through a conduit, adding a splice case at both ends of the conduit, and splicing the old cable to the new section. This is on private property and the existing cable was broken (bent into a hairpin by outside trauma) just outside the conduit. There's not enough sticking out of the pipe to put a splice there, so I have to run a new piece through the conduit. I guess the scope of work isn't that important though. I'm more interested in how you bill it. I know some people use an hourly rate for installing the cable and then a flat fee per splice. Is there a justification for charging per splice as opposed to charging for T&M? Is it to recoup the cost of the splicer perhaps? --
