Well, that’s more like a drop install then.

So your reckoning is not far off in that case.


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair

Me.  It's a 6 count drop cable and only two of the fibers are actually used, so 
four splices total.  I have two $17 outdoor interconnect boxes in stock.  I 
have some practice with these boxes now, so I can do setup and teardown in 30 
minutes for each end.  A few minutes for each actual splice.  I do know the 
pull through the conduit will be easy and a second guy is doing that while I 
work on the first splices....then I'll move the splicer and re-setup at the 
other end after he's done.  We'll be done in two hours, 4 man hours total.  I 
don't really have any doubts about that.

Whoever said I didn't provide enough details was right, but there they are now.

If I only bill for T&M then we're a victim of our own efficiency.  I guess 
they'll have to pay whatever we tell them, but I'd rather have a rationale for 
charging a certain price.  I'll figure it out, but I was curious how other 
people do it.  I'd love to charge $1500, but the T&M adds up to maybe $600.  If 
I added $50 per fusion splice then I'd only be at $800.  I can add $700 because 
I said so, but I'd rather not put on a line item that says "Greed fee."




------ Original Message ------
From: "Carl Peterson" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 7/31/2017 5:32:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair

Better question is who can build out two splice cases, pull the fiber, and 
splice it all in four hours?  Unless this is something like 12ct fiber and an 
easy little splice case, it is going to take way longer then that.  I've had 
guys take 8 hours to do a 48 strand cable to a couple 24 node drop cables.  
They are new at it though.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Steve Jones 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
per splice removes the speed issue
one guy can do maybe 10 an hour, one guy 5
normalizes costs
plus its a specific dedicated piece of equipment, have to recoup that at a 
specific rate
my guy charges 70 per non bulk splice, I think that's fair

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think it’s around $5-$6 a foot is the metric for retail runs.

So that’s $6 x 200 = $1200 total.

Maybe a bit extra depending on the vaults and splice cases used in your case 
since it’s a shorter run.



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:49 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair

It's about $100 in materials which I already have and 4 hours of labor.

Just at T&M I feel like I'm way too low, which probably means I should change 
how I'm billing it.  :)
So how do you arrive at $1500?  What's the math?


------ Original Message ------
From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 7/31/2017 4:39:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rates for fiber repair

Sounds like at least a $1500 job to me...

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm curious what some of you guys might charge for running 200' of new cable 
through a conduit, adding a splice case at both ends of the conduit, and 
splicing the old cable to the new section.

This is on private property and the existing cable was broken (bent into a 
hairpin by outside trauma) just outside the conduit.  There's not enough 
sticking out of the pipe to put a splice there, so I have to run a new piece 
through the conduit.

I guess the scope of work isn't that important though.  I'm more interested in 
how you bill it.  I know some people use an hourly rate for installing the 
cable and then a flat fee per splice.  Is there a justification for charging 
per splice as opposed to charging for T&M?  Is it to recoup the cost of the 
splicer perhaps?







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