Yep, that is what I made. HDPE Culvert.
*From:* Carl Peterson
*Sent:* Monday, August 21, 2017 7:59 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
Like this: http://www.hancor.com/product/meterpits.html
Seems like water meter pits might be a much cheaper option for
light duty:
http://www.dfwplasticsinc.com/products/brochures
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Carl Peterson
<[email protected]> wrote:
Baltimore City is in the process of replacing all of its water
meters. For some of them, this involves replacing the "vault"
they are in as well. There is a construction lot near my
house where they store them and they look a lot like double
wall corrugated pipe with U cutouts in the bottom but are
clearly manufactured. Guessing they would be a whole lot
cheaper then real vaults. Not sure how they would work in a
greenway as the covers are usiualy set in concrete.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Chris Fabien
<[email protected]> wrote:
This is the spec you're looking for. Note that they
certify the complete assembly so something based on
drainpioe may not really pass the spec. But we would atill
be interested. We just had to replace a plastic handhole
last week cause a tractor or something drove over it.
Something strong but cheaper than a $200 polymer concrete
handhole would be ideal. We don't have to prove
compliance to a certian spec in our area.
On Aug 20, 2017 10:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
wrote:
I am thinking that if I put in some legs that would
fit inside the culvert and if the lid was about 6”
wider than the culvert all the way round, both the lip
and the legs would be pretty strong if someone drove
over it.
I need some my self. Sounds like a worthy project to
resurrect. Have to look up the method for rating hand
holes. Something about tire widths and forces. I know
with the polymer concrete you elevate the lid and
drive a truck of certain weight on it and it cannot
break. Not sure where I found that reference. I think
it was some kind of DOT document.
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:56 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
We would be interested in a 24" version.
On Aug 20, 2017 8:50 PM, "Chuck McCown"
<[email protected]> wrote:
I did a 24” version too. But if you are splicing a
couple of 288 strands the splice case is pretty
large.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:49 PM
*To:* [email protected] ; [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
36" diameter? That's a big honkin handhole. What
are you guys putting into these hand holes?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 8/20/2017 5:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
I was making handhole components a few years
ago. Not a big money maker. But handholes are
simply too expensive. I came up with some
alternate designs, like a slice of 36” plastic
conduit. Made a lid to go over it. Maybe I ought
to revisit that project. The world needs lower
cost hand holes.
*From:* George Skorup
*Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we
have wireless now. Private association of about
40 homes. The president is also an electrical
contractor and has helped us on other non-fiber
stuff in the past. So at least we can get duct at
his cost. Looking like about 6250 feet of duct
and 21 or 22 handholes. Probably going to follow
Chuck Hogg's strategy with 1x4 PLCs in the splice
cases fed by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough
guestimates are around $25-27k before putting it
in the ground or customer drops. We figure we can
make a business case with a $1k install.
On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
It does include the fiber, but not electronics
or splice closures. Just fiber, associated
mounting hardware, and guy wires/anchors.
On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett
<[email protected]> wrote:
Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'. The
long ones naturally pushed up the average
quite a bit.
On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot
plus the cable. The contractor is supplying
all material except the cable itself and
honestlyI don't recall how much of that was
labor vs material. We did have to add 4
poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile.
And that also includes splice enclosures,
switches, optics, switch enclosure, and
electric installation at the switch enclosure.
Does your $1/ft in materials include the
actual fiber? If not, then we're very
close. If it does then I have to sharpen
the pencil quite a bit.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jason McKemie"
<[email protected]>
To:
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Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
How long are the drops? Labor for main runs
cost me about $.75/ft last time I did it,
plus around $1/ft in materials. I didn't
have to do much make ready though, that can
add up quickly. I think my drops cost me
roughly $1/ft since I'm doing them myself now.
On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
wrote:
I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent
active E deployment. Each customer
installation averaged $900. This is
rural, so lots of long drops.
I guess I'm looking over to the next
stall to see how mine measures up to yours.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
So after the dust has settled on
completed projects, what sort of money
have you ended up spending per mile?
How much per customer installation?
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