Like this: http://www.hancor.com/product/meterpits.html

Seems like water meter pits might be a much cheaper option for light duty:

http://www.dfwplasticsinc.com/products/brochures



On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Carl Peterson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Baltimore City is in the process of replacing all of its water meters.
> For some of them, this involves replacing the "vault" they are in as well.
> There is a construction lot near my house where they store them and they
> look a lot like double wall corrugated pipe with U cutouts in the bottom
> but are clearly manufactured.  Guessing they would be a whole lot cheaper
> then real vaults.  Not sure how they would work in a greenway as the covers
> are usiualy set in concrete.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This is the spec you're  looking for. Note that they certify the complete
>>  assembly so something based on drainpioe may not really pass the spec. But
>> we would atill be interested. We just had to replace a plastic handhole
>> last week cause a tractor  or something  drove over it. Something strong
>>  but cheaper than a $200 polymer concrete handhole would be ideal. We
>> don't  have to prove compliance to a certian  spec in our area.
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2017 10:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I am thinking that if I put in some legs that would fit inside the
>>> culvert and if the lid was about 6” wider than the culvert all the way
>>> round, both the lip and the legs would be pretty strong if someone drove
>>> over it.
>>>
>>> I need some my self.  Sounds like a worthy project to resurrect.  Have
>>> to look up the method for rating hand holes.  Something about tire widths
>>> and forces.  I know with the polymer concrete you elevate the lid and drive
>>> a truck of certain weight on it and it cannot break.  Not sure where I
>>> found that reference.  I think it was some kind of DOT document.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:56 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>
>>> We would be interested in a 24" version.
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2017 8:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did a 24” version too. But if you are splicing a couple of 288
>>>> strands the splice case is pretty large.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:49 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>>
>>>> 36" diameter?  That's a big honkin handhole. What are you guys putting
>>>> into these hand holes?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: 8/20/2017 5:56:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was making handhole components a few years ago.  Not a big money
>>>> maker.  But handholes are simply too expensive.  I came up with some
>>>> alternate designs, like a slice of 36” plastic conduit.  Made a lid to go
>>>> over it.  Maybe I ought to revisit that project.  The world needs lower
>>>> cost hand holes.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* George Skorup
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>>
>>>> We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we have wireless now.
>>>> Private association of about 40 homes. The president is also an electrical
>>>> contractor and has helped us on other non-fiber stuff in the past. So at
>>>> least we can get duct at his cost. Looking like about 6250 feet of duct and
>>>> 21 or 22 handholes. Probably going to follow Chuck Hogg's strategy with 1x4
>>>> PLCs in the splice cases fed by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough guestimates
>>>> are around $25-27k before putting it in the ground or customer drops. We
>>>> figure we can make a business case with a $1k install.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It does include the fiber, but not electronics or splice closures. Just
>>>> fiber, associated mounting hardware, and guy wires/anchors.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'.  The long ones naturally
>>>>> pushed up the average quite a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot plus the cable.  The
>>>>> contractor is supplying all material except the cable itself and honestlyI
>>>>> don't recall how much of that was labor vs material.  We did have to add 4
>>>>> poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile.  And that also includes splice
>>>>> enclosures, switches, optics, switch enclosure, and electric installation
>>>>> at the switch enclosure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does your $1/ft in materials include the actual fiber?  If not, then
>>>>> we're very close.  If it does then I have to sharpen the pencil quite a 
>>>>> bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');" <
>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>>>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How long are the drops? Labor for main runs cost me about $.75/ft last
>>>>> time I did it, plus around $1/ft in materials. I didn't have to do much
>>>>> make ready though, that can add up quickly. I think my drops cost me
>>>>> roughly $1/ft since I'm doing them myself now.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <
>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent active E deployment.  Each
>>>>>> customer installation averaged $900.  This is rural, so lots of long 
>>>>>> drops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I'm looking over to the next stall to see how mine measures
>>>>>> up to yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So after the dust has settled on completed projects, what sort of
>>>>>> money have you ended up spending per mile?
>>>>>> How much per customer installation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>
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