I use sprinkler valve boxes for some customer drops, the price is definitely right.
On Monday, August 21, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > I wonder what Hancor charges for these "meter pits" > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > To: [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > Sent: 8/21/2017 10:11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile > > Yep, that is what I made. HDPE Culvert. > > *From:* Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Monday, August 21, 2017 7:59 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile > > Like this: http://www.hancor.com/product/meterpits.html > > Seems like water meter pits might be a much cheaper option for light duty: > > http://www.dfwplasticsinc.com/products/brochures > > > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Carl Peterson <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Baltimore City is in the process of replacing all of its water meters. >> For some of them, this involves replacing the "vault" they are in as well. >> There is a construction lot near my house where they store them and they >> look a lot like double wall corrugated pipe with U cutouts in the bottom >> but are clearly manufactured. Guessing they would be a whole lot cheaper >> then real vaults. Not sure how they would work in a greenway as the covers >> are usiualy set in concrete. >> >> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> This is the spec you're looking for. Note that they certify the >>> complete assembly so something based on drainpioe may not really pass the >>> spec. But we would atill be interested. We just had to replace a plastic >>> handhole last week cause a tractor or something drove over it. Something >>> strong but cheaper than a $200 polymer concrete handhole would be >>> ideal. We don't have to prove compliance to a certian spec in our area. >>> >>> On Aug 20, 2017 10:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I am thinking that if I put in some legs that would fit inside the >>>> culvert and if the lid was about 6” wider than the culvert all the way >>>> round, both the lip and the legs would be pretty strong if someone drove >>>> over it. >>>> >>>> I need some my self. Sounds like a worthy project to resurrect. Have >>>> to look up the method for rating hand holes. Something about tire widths >>>> and forces. I know with the polymer concrete you elevate the lid and drive >>>> a truck of certain weight on it and it cannot break. Not sure where I >>>> found that reference. I think it was some kind of DOT document. >>>> >>>> *From:* Chris Fabien >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:56 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>> >>>> We would be interested in a 24" version. >>>> >>>> On Aug 20, 2017 8:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I did a 24” version too. But if you are splicing a couple of 288 >>>>> strands the splice case is pretty large. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:49 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>>> >>>>> 36" diameter? That's a big honkin handhole. What are you guys putting >>>>> into these hand holes? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: 8/20/2017 5:56:37 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was making handhole components a few years ago. Not a big money >>>>> maker. But handholes are simply too expensive. I came up with some >>>>> alternate designs, like a slice of 36” plastic conduit. Made a lid to go >>>>> over it. Maybe I ought to revisit that project. The world needs lower >>>>> cost hand holes. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* George Skorup >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>>> >>>>> We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we have wireless now. >>>>> Private association of about 40 homes. The president is also an electrical >>>>> contractor and has helped us on other non-fiber stuff in the past. So at >>>>> least we can get duct at his cost. Looking like about 6250 feet of duct >>>>> and >>>>> 21 or 22 handholes. Probably going to follow Chuck Hogg's strategy with >>>>> 1x4 >>>>> PLCs in the splice cases fed by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough guestimates >>>>> are around $25-27k before putting it in the ground or customer drops. We >>>>> figure we can make a business case with a $1k install. >>>>> >>>>> On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It does include the fiber, but not electronics or splice closures. >>>>> Just fiber, associated mounting hardware, and guy wires/anchors. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'. The long ones naturally >>>>>> pushed up the average quite a bit. >>>>>> >>>>>> On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot plus the cable. The >>>>>> contractor is supplying all material except the cable itself and >>>>>> honestlyI >>>>>> don't recall how much of that was labor vs material. We did have to add >>>>>> 4 >>>>>> poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile. And that also includes >>>>>> splice >>>>>> enclosures, switches, optics, switch enclosure, and electric installation >>>>>> at the switch enclosure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does your $1/ft in materials include the actual fiber? If not, then >>>>>> we're very close. If it does then I have to sharpen the pencil quite a >>>>>> bit. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');" < >>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How long are the drops? Labor for main runs cost me about $.75/ft >>>>>> last time I did it, plus around $1/ft in materials. I didn't have to do >>>>>> much make ready though, that can add up quickly. I think my drops cost me >>>>>> roughly $1/ft since I'm doing them myself now. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett < >>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent active E deployment. Each >>>>>>> customer installation averaged $900. This is rural, so lots of long >>>>>>> drops. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess I'm looking over to the next stall to see how mine measures >>>>>>> up to yours. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So after the dust has settled on completed projects, what sort of >>>>>>> money have you ended up spending per mile? >>>>>>> How much per customer installation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> *PORT NETWORKS* >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 <(410)%20637-3707> >> > > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > >
