I wonder what Hancor charges for these "meter pits"
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From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 8/21/2017 10:11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
Yep, that is what I made. HDPE Culvert.
From:Carl Peterson
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 7:59 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
Like this: http://www.hancor.com/product/meterpits.html
Seems like water meter pits might be a much cheaper option for light
duty:
http://www.dfwplasticsinc.com/products/brochures
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Carl Peterson
<[email protected]> wrote:
Baltimore City is in the process of replacing all of its water meters.
For some of them, this involves replacing the "vault" they are in as
well. There is a construction lot near my house where they store them
and they look a lot like double wall corrugated pipe with U cutouts in
the bottom but are clearly manufactured. Guessing they would be a
whole lot cheaper then real vaults. Not sure how they would work in a
greenway as the covers are usiualy set in concrete.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
wrote:
This is the spec you're looking for. Note that they certify the
complete assembly so something based on drainpioe may not really
pass the spec. But we would atill be interested. We just had to
replace a plastic handhole last week cause a tractor or something
drove over it. Something strong but cheaper than a $200 polymer
concrete handhole would be ideal. We don't have to prove compliance
to a certian spec in our area.
On Aug 20, 2017 10:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
I am thinking that if I put in some legs that would fit inside the
culvert and if the lid was about 6” wider than the culvert all the
way round, both the lip and the legs would be pretty strong if
someone drove over it.
I need some my self. Sounds like a worthy project to resurrect.
Have to look up the method for rating hand holes. Something about
tire widths and forces. I know with the polymer concrete you
elevate the lid and drive a truck of certain weight on it and it
cannot break. Not sure where I found that reference. I think it
was some kind of DOT document.
From:Chris Fabien
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:56 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
We would be interested in a 24" version.
On Aug 20, 2017 8:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
I did a 24” version too. But if you are splicing a couple of 288
strands the splice case is pretty large.
From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:49 PM
To:[email protected] ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
36" diameter? That's a big honkin handhole. What are you guys
putting into these hand holes?
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From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 8/20/2017 5:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
I was making handhole components a few years ago. Not a big money
maker. But handholes are simply too expensive. I came up with
some alternate designs, like a slice of 36” plastic conduit. Made
a lid to go over it. Maybe I ought to revisit that project. The
world needs lower cost hand holes.
From:George Skorup
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we have wireless now.
Private association of about 40 homes. The president is also an
electrical contractor and has helped us on other non-fiber stuff
in the past. So at least we can get duct at his cost. Looking like
about 6250 feet of duct and 21 or 22 handholes. Probably going to
follow Chuck Hogg's strategy with 1x4 PLCs in the splice cases fed
by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough guestimates are around $25-27k
before putting it in the ground or customer drops. We figure we
can make a business case with a $1k install.
On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
It does include the fiber, but not electronics or splice
closures. Just fiber, associated mounting hardware, and guy
wires/anchors.
On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
wrote:
Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'. The long ones naturally
pushed up the average quite a bit.
On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot plus the cable. The
contractor is supplying all material except the cable itself and
honestlyI don't recall how much of that was labor vs material.
We did have to add 4 poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile.
And that also includes splice enclosures, switches, optics,
switch enclosure, and electric installation at the switch
enclosure.
Does your $1/ft in materials include the actual fiber? If not,
then we're very close. If it does then I have to sharpen the
pencil quite a bit.
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From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]>
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Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
How long are the drops? Labor for main runs cost me about
$.75/ft last time I did it, plus around $1/ft in materials. I
didn't have to do much make ready though, that can add up
quickly. I think my drops cost me roughly $1/ft since I'm doing
them myself now.
On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent active E deployment. Each
customer installation averaged $900. This is rural, so lots
of long drops.
I guess I'm looking over to the next stall to see how mine
measures up to yours.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
So after the dust has settled on completed projects, what
sort of money have you ended up spending per mile?
How much per customer installation?
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