It does show on the AP Side... Lower right hand of the dashboard .... click on the two dots to see the different screens ...
Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:02:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 > I see the power leveling from the client side, would be nice if it showed on > the > AP side, better than nothing though > On a bright note, getting that relieve/drain replaced was a snap, 5 minutes on > chat and theyre sending a replacement next day 1 in the plus column for them > for sure > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > > wrote: >> Thanks for the explanation, helps us in getting a better understanding of the >> function and features. >> :) >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> From: "George Skorup" < [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:03:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>> Turning up Tx power for rain fade is called power per mod, ACM power >>> control or >>> more sanely "variable power" as the SAF Luminas call it. ATPC is there to >>> turn >>> the power down when it's too hot. Power control and ATPC are two independent >>> functions in the Lumina, as it should be. SAF did this right. I love the >>> Lumina, except when ACM decides to get stuck. That's my only complaint about >>> it. Well, the buffer is a bit small, but it's only a 360Mbps radio, so it's >>> not >>> too bad with flow control. >>> When you coordinate a path, you can do either fixed or variable power. >>> Obviously >>> the radio will need to support variable. >>> Here's an example from a Trango ApexPlus. >>> Notice that they call it ATPC because that's what Trango ended up doing, >>> adapting their ATPC code for power per mod level. This wasn't supported for >>> the >>> first year or two which was driving a lot of us nuts since the Remec ODU >>> fully >>> supported it. >>> The Exalt ExtendAir G2 is another example. Exalt told me ATPC couldn't do >>> this >>> and I was SOL. So I guess enough of us bitched loud enough because ACM power >>> control is finally supported after three years with the 1.5.0 release. I >>> haven't loaded it on any of our radios yet, so we'll see. >>> I don't know what the actual criteria for ATPC declaration is. But I'd >>> imagine >>> something like a really short path, or really large antennas for maximum >>> fade >>> resistance. Maybe the path is engineered for a -20dBm, but some radios don't >>> want any hotter than -30dBm, so you need ATPC to bring it down 10dB. But you >>> still want to be able to run at max EIRP for heavy fade events, so it's >>> coordinated at say 28dBm w/ 8' dishes for that -20dBm RSL, -30dBm ATPC >>> level. >>> On 8/27/2017 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>>> fair point.. >>>> I was referring more to the concept of ATPC, which would allow one to turn >>>> up >>>> the power under signal fade conditions. >>>> with the B11, when configured with coordinated power, the signal can be >>>> rather >>>> Hot, and these radios will (auto) turn down power, and maintain >>>> performance. >>>> It is not ATPC, but the functionality of needing extra power while >>>> maintaining >>>> optimum performance is there.. >>>> The biggest challenge with the Mimosa products is that they are doing >>>> things >>>> differently, and it can be a challenge in ' translating ' all of there ' >>>> feature's into the 'well known' and or 'accepted' features. >>>> Not passing judgment on if those features are good or bad, just saying >>>> that in >>>> trying to gain a better understanding of Mimosa Radios, one has to look at >>>> these features in a different light.. >>>> While they may not be your 'cup of tea' or they may not be 'the best' >>>> radio for >>>> a particular application, they fit a requirement niche very well. >>>> :) >>>> Regards. >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 5:24:29 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>> Part 101 says you should run your systems at the coordinated power levels >>>>> unless >>>>> ATPC is explicitly declared. Just sayin. >>>>> On 8/27/2017 12:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>>>>> FYI, ATPC (Automatic Transmit Power Control) is practiced by the Mimosa >>>>>> B11 but >>>>>> it is done a bit differently. >>>>>> First of all.... There is a function built into the Mimosa B11 which >>>>>> allows them >>>>>> to back off Tx Power. >>>>>> (Latest firmware). >>>>>> 2nd, The Mimosa Radios have an uncanny ability to deal with Hot Signals >>>>>> and >>>>>> still keep offering best performance (-30 !) >>>>>> With Older firmware, a couple of versions back, the ideal sweet spot for >>>>>> performance was with an SNR of 34-36 .. but in the last couple of >>>>>> firmware >>>>>> updates they have improved performance with Hot signals and a High SNR. >>>>>> Feel free to test it ... :) >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:17:21 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>> Is that a common practice? And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a >>>>>>> monthly >>>>>>> basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex? Do you find it is worth >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> additional cost? >>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:59 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and >>>>>>> still hit >>>>>>> a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to compensate >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and still be >>>>>>> legal. >>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" < [email protected] > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link? >>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>>>>> From: Mathew Howard < [email protected] > >>>>>>> Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00) >>>>>>> To: af < [email protected] > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>> No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case. >>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" < [email protected] > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power >>>>>>> on a >>>>>>> licensed link above the stated limits? >>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM >>>>>>> To: af >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're >>>>>>> done with >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain >>>>>>> fade... you >>>>>>> need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the >>>>>>> radios can't >>>>>>> run at full modulation at full power. >>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" < [email protected] > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel. >>>>>>> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though. The power setting >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> pre-determined. How does ATPC play into this? >>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can >>>>>>> already see >>>>>>> how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low >>>>>>> power >>>>>>> wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster? >>>>>>> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and >>>>>>> when we >>>>>>> start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, >>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>> sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever. >>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < [email protected] > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I think Steve may have wrestled with it !.. >>>>>>> Ducking ! >>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>> From: "Jaime Fink" < [email protected] > >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, >>>>>>>> it's not >>>>>>>> under pressure in shipment. >>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, " [email protected] " < [email protected] > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it >>>>>>>>> could cause >>>>>>>>> the pop off. >>>>>>>>> From: Steve Jones >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" < [email protected] > wrote: >>>>>>>>> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's >>>>>>>>> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the >>>>>>>>> box, first >>>>>>>>> one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air >>>>>>>>> pressure >>>>>>>>> would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't >>>>>>>>> be able >>>>>>>>> to escape. >>>>>>>>> Just contact them on chat on our site. >>>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones < [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. >>>>>>>>>> These will blow >>>>>>>>>> off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it >>>>>>>>>> falls off in >>>>>>>>>> the box, its not staying on anywhere >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole.. >>>>>>>>>> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone. >>>>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>>>> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one >>>>>>>>>>> came off and i >>>>>>>>>>> cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11. Hell, if you can >>>>>>>>>>> program a >>>>>>>>>>> Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work. That’s what >>>>>>>>>>> I call >>>>>>>>>>> efficiency in terms of training. >>>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>>>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific >>>>>>>>>>> knowledge is >>>>>>>>>>> not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a >>>>>>>>>>> rocket ship, >>>>>>>>>>> but still... >>>>>>>>>>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet? >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" < [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there >>>>>>>>>>>> is a field >>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>>>>> That's not necessarily a good thing. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" < [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no >>>>>>>>>>>>> training versus the >>>>>>>>>>>>> crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining >>>>>>>>>>>>> about that? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>>>>>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" < [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever use the original ePMP? >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Steve Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>>>>>> ill have to look into browser >>>>>>>>>>>>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the login >>>>>>>>>>>>> screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears >>>>>>>>>>>>> quality, >>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought >>>>>>>>>>>>> at least its not java, ill give it that >>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> interface. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how >>>>>>>>>>>>> you say it’s >>>>>>>>>>>>> clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. >>>>>>>>>>>>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely >>>>>>>>>>>>> false. If the AP is >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the connection side, the client side will always search and >>>>>>>>>>>>> connect. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t >>>>>>>>>>>>> see how that is >>>>>>>>>>>>> any different than anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the >>>>>>>>>>>>> save button >>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >>>>>>>>>>>>> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living >>>>>>>>>>>>> room floor >>>>>>>>>>>>> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has >>>>>>>>>>>>> any issue no >>>>>>>>>>>>> getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad >>>>>>>>>>>>> these are >>>>>>>>>>>>> going in a redundant path >>>>>>>>>>>>> essids reverting to factory... awesome >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to do a >>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>> minute >>>>>>>>>>>>> process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first >>>>>>>>>>>>> ones getting >>>>>>>>>>>>> chucked through a window >>>>>>>>>>>>> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how >>>>>>>>>>>>> freaking stupid >>>>>>>>>>>>> is that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres >>>>>>>>>>>>> no 11ghz link >>>>>>>>>>>>> going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect. >>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking >>>>>>>>>>>>> upconverts, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> should have researched more >>>>>>>>>>>>> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some >>>>>>>>>>>>> respect for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> epmp >>>>>>>>>>>>> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, >>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sure if I >>>>>>>>>>>>> ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to >>>>>>>>>>>>> everybodys house >>>>>>>>>>>>> and let them know whats going on before it comes back up. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line >>>>>>>>>>>>> of antennas >>>>>>>>>>>>> though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf >>>>>>>>>>>>> interface on.
