I just saw the announcement baicells is replacing all gear for free in
affected areas. I know at the end of the day its marketing, but its still
pretty solid thing to do.

On Aug 28, 2017 7:59 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Harvey DIRS FCC report 8/28/17:
> -There are 4.7% of the cell sites down in the affected area, up from 4.1%
> yesterday.
> -There are at least 189,487 subscribers (up from at least 148,565
> yesterday) out of service in the affected area. This includes users who get
> service from cable system or wireline providers.
> -There are 19 (up from 11 yesterday) non-mobile switching centers out of
> service and 22 (up from 21 yesterday) switching centers on back-up power.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Kind of hard to move a city with 6.2 million people. But i say the same
>> thing about new orleans, anybody who didnt bring in fill to get above the
>> water should never get a dime
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2017 7:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> just playing devil's advocate but...if i lived in the path of an
>>> avalanche up here in the mountains and my house/neighborhood/city kept
>>> getting hit every [N] winter(s) with an avalanche that crushed everything
>>> in it's path and the rest of the country kept sending money for me/us to
>>> rebuild in the same place...wouldn't y'all eventually say "hey stop
>>> building in the path of the avalanche!?!?"
>>>
>>> just wondering ;-)
>>>
>>> -sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tough call any way you cut it...our city has sent nurses and emt help
>>>> to Houston, utility trucks en route to San Antonio to stage for action, our
>>>> emergency response center is ready for 1500 evacuees and more if
>>>> necessary.  We did same for Katrina evacuees...many actually stayed...
>>>> hospitality, great food and affordable housing, and again , great food.
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2017 1:05 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> would you rather have 6.5 million people on the interstates when they
>>>>> flooded?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 1:33 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe someone from Texas can explain this to me but it seems that the
>>>>> Huston evacuation plan for the storm (or really any natural disaster) was
>>>>> to not evacuate because they can't move 6.5million people out of the city
>>>>> in time for the storm so everyone was supposed to evacuate "in place"...so
>>>>> now the plan is to go rescue everyone who stayed in place because it's all
>>>>> flooded.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know Texans have their own sort of reasoning and thinking but this
>>>>> seems really flawed IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>> am i missing something or do I have my facts wrong?!?!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Lewis Bergman <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No political action better than reaction other than over reaction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Abbot just called out all Texas National Guard!! About 12000
>>>>>>> members...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2017 8:33 AM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Wisp response to Katrina was awesome thanks to Mac Dearman. I
>>>>>>>> tired to offer wifi to some of the shelters up here in Fort Worth after
>>>>>>>> that and it just turned into a bureaucratic nightmare and nothing ever 
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> done. Nobody seemed to know who was in charge of communications. The
>>>>>>>> shelters in some parts of Houston, as I understand it, are a moving 
>>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>> as well right now. My partner's son is currently in one, but it may 
>>>>>>>> soon be
>>>>>>>> overtaken by water itself and they might have to evac the few hundred
>>>>>>>> people there. It's a mess for sure. Someone might consider contacting
>>>>>>>> either Samaritan's Purse or HEB here in TX as they have already 
>>>>>>>> mobilized
>>>>>>>> huge convoys of trucks with everything from food and water to laundry
>>>>>>>> trucks, to shower trucks, etc. I wonder if they have ever considered
>>>>>>>> communications? It might be worth while to have them build a few comms
>>>>>>>> trucks with hydraulic masts that could be quickly deployed and get
>>>>>>>> bandwidth from a nearby wisp for just such events. It could be 
>>>>>>>> outfitted
>>>>>>>> with a bunch of couches, usb charging ports, and few APs 
>>>>>>>> inside/outside to
>>>>>>>> provide communications quickly outside of shelters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Jones <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Was reading at&t is setting up temporary cell towers to bring up
>>>>>>>>> basic outward commimications and limited data. Its filtering out 
>>>>>>>>> streaming
>>>>>>>>> and video. Of course when the politics takes things over, there will 
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> people who try suing for it not being "open internet'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine it would keep getting worse as they run out of
>>>>>>>>>> fuel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:34 AM CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for posting these
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey damage
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 12:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Communications getting worse from FCC DIRS report differing from
>>>>>>>>>>> Aug 26 to Aug 27
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346369A1.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 9 radio stations out of service (up from 5 on Aug 26 report)
>>>>>>>>>>> 6 more switching centers, 11 total out of service (up from 5 on
>>>>>>>>>>> Aug 26 report)
>>>>>>>>>>> 320 total cell towers out of service (up from 315 on Aug 26
>>>>>>>>>>> report)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will be interesting to see what the Aug 28 report shows, looks
>>>>>>>>>>> like they come out at 11:30 each morning
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fcc.gov/harvey
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From NANOG last night.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hurrican Harvey DIRS report
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 radio stations out of service (WKNC, KKTX, KUNO, KKWV, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> KAYK)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 149,909 cable and wireline subscribers out of service (5
>>>>>>>>>>>> switching centers
>>>>>>>>>>>> out of service, and 38 switching centers on backup power)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4% of cell sites out of service (Aransas, Reugio and San
>>>>>>>>>>>> Patricio, TX have
>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 50% of cell sites out of service)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 PSAPs out of service or calls re-routed to another PSAP
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aransas, TX is very rural, with only 19 cell sites, 18 out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2017 10:32 AM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas, with > 10 inches expected in the next few days. Rockport 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hardest hit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Hill Country areas? Tushar, Alan? Some flooding in San 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antonio and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially Houston  but haven't heard about Austin, Llano, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marble Falls,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. I have some Cambium 180s spares and one Epmp1000 .. stay 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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