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From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey damage
Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 10:51 PM

I just saw the announcement baicells is replacing all gear for free in affected 
areas. I know at the end of the day its marketing, but its still pretty solid 
thing to do.

On Aug 28, 2017 7:59 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> 
wrote:Harvey DIRS FCC report 8/28/17:-There are 4.7% of the cell sites down in 
the
affected area, up from 4.1% yesterday. 
-There are at least 189,487 subscribers (up from at least 148,565 yesterday) 
out of service in the affected
area. This includes users who get service from cable system or wireline 
providers. 
-There are 19 (up from
11 yesterday) non-mobile switching centers out of service and 22 (up from 21 
yesterday) switching
centers on back-up power. 

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
Kind of hard to move a city with 6.2 million people. But i say the same thing 
about new orleans, anybody who didnt bring in fill to get above the water 
should never get a dime

On Aug 28, 2017 7:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote:just playing 
devil's advocate but...if i lived in the path of an avalanche up here in the 
mountains and my house/neighborhood/city kept getting hit every [N] winter(s) 
with an avalanche that crushed everything in it's path and the rest of the 
country kept sending money for me/us to rebuild in the same place...wouldn't 
y'all eventually say "hey stop building in the path of the avalanche!?!?"
just wondering ;-)

-sean



On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:
Tough call any way you cut it...our city has sent nurses and emt help to 
Houston, utility trucks en route to San Antonio to stage for action, our 
emergency response center is ready for 1500 evacuees and more if necessary.  We 
did same for Katrina evacuees...many actually stayed... hospitality, great food 
and affordable housing, and again , great food. 

Jaime Solorza


On Aug 28, 2017 1:05 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> wrote:






 

would you rather have 6.5 million people on the 
interstates when they flooded?



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From: 
Sean Heskett 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 1:33 
PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage



maybe someone from Texas can explain this to me but it seems that 
the Huston evacuation plan for the storm (or really any natural disaster) was 
to not evacuate because they can't move 6.5million people out of the city in 
time for the storm so everyone was supposed to evacuate "in place"...so now 
the plan is to go rescue everyone who stayed in place because it's all 
flooded.


I know Texans have their own sort of reasoning and thinking but this 
seems really flawed IMHO.



am i missing something or do I have my facts wrong?!?!



-Sean






On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> wrote:


No political action better than reaction other than over 
reaction.





On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:


Abbot just called out all Texas National Guard!! About 12000 
members...




Jaime Solorza



On Aug 28, 2017 8:33 AM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

The Wisp response to Katrina was awesome thanks to Mac 
Dearman. I tired to offer wifi to some of the shelters up here in Fort 
Worth after that and it just turned into a bureaucratic nightmare and 
nothing ever got done. Nobody seemed to know who was in charge of 
communications. The shelters in some parts of Houston, as I understand 
it, are a moving target as well right now. My partner's son is currently 
in one, but it may soon be overtaken by water itself and they might have 
to evac the few hundred people there. It's a mess for sure. Someone 
might consider contacting either Samaritan's Purse or HEB here in TX as 
they have already mobilized huge convoys of trucks with everything from 
food and water to laundry trucks, to shower trucks, etc. I wonder if 
they have ever considered communications? It might be worth while to 
have them build a few comms trucks with hydraulic masts that could be 
quickly deployed and get bandwidth from a nearby wisp for just such 
events. It could be outfitted with a bunch of couches, usb charging 
ports, and few APs inside/outside to provide communications quickly 
outside of shelters. 



On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:


Was reading at&t is setting up temporary cell towers to bring 
up basic outward commimications and limited data. Its filtering out 
streaming and video. Of course when the politics takes things over, 
there will be people who try suing for it not being "open 
internet'





On Aug 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote:

I would imagine it would keep getting worse as they run 
out of fuel.



On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:34 AM CBB - Jay Fuller 
<[email protected]> wrote:





Thanks for posting these 



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From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey 
damage
Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 12:19 AM


Communications getting worse from FCC DIRS report 
differing from Aug 26 to Aug 27


https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346369A1.pdf



9 radio stations out of service (up from 5 on Aug 26 
report)

6 more switching centers, 11 total out of service (up from 5 
on Aug 26 report)

320 total cell towers out of service (up from 315 on Aug 26 
report)



Will be interesting to see what the Aug 28 report shows, 
looks like they come out at 11:30 each morning



https://www.fcc.gov/harvey
















On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Jason 
Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:


From NANOG last night.....







Hurrican Harvey DIRS report

5 radio stations out 
of service (WKNC, KKTX, KUNO, KKWV, and KAYK)
149,909 cable 
and wireline subscribers out of service (5 switching 
centers
out of service, and 38 switching centers on backup 
power)
4% of cell sites out of service (Aransas, Reugio and 
San Patricio, TX have
more than 50% of cell sites out of 
service)
9 PSAPs out of service or calls re-routed to another 
PSAP

Aransas, TX is very rural, with only 19 cell sites, 
18 out of service.


https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf













On Aug 27, 2017 10:32 AM, "Bill 
Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
I 
saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain 
areas, with > 10 inches expected in the next few days. 
Rockport seems to be the hardest 
hit.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 
8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Hey 
guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down in 
Hill Country areas? Tushar, Alan? Some flooding in San 
Antonio and especially Houston  but haven't heard about 
Austin, Llano, Marble Falls, etc. I have some Cambium 180s 
spares and one Epmp1000 .. stay safe

Jaime 
Solorza

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