Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLTAre you using splitters in splice cases or in cross 
connect boxes?

From: Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:55 AM
To: Adam Moffett 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT


There are some ranging things you have to consider.  "The requirement
when deploying ONTs are the maximum distance between two ONTs cannot
exceed 20Km."

The way we have done this is to reuse fibers as we travel down long stretches 
of roads between neighborhoods.

We will deploy a 1x32 splitter in the field. We will splice that into the last 
3 ribbons/tubes of our fiber.  Example, if we were using a 144 count cable, 
ribbons 10-12 will be spliced into.  After a few miles depending on density or 
distance, we will splice in another 1x32 splitter to ribbons 10-12.  We just 
keep doing this until we run out of light budget.  

We build to the lots passed, so we are not trying to optimize max usage per 
port.  Currently, we average about 50% utilization on our ports.

Best regards,

Myakka Technologies, Inc.


Monday, February 12, 2018, 11:38:39 AM, you wrote:

     Maybe I need to review the math.

      I was figuring on several small splitters along the route.  I didn't 
compare to a 1x32 in the cabinet because I figured if I brought every fiber 
back to the cabinet then I didn't save anything versus ethernet.

      ------ Original Message ------
      From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" <>
      To: "Adam Moffett" <>
      Sent: 2/12/2018 11:30:46 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT


            How far are you going?  We are pushing almost 20 miles on a 1x32 
split.  Are you using one 1x32 or multiple smaller splitters?

            Best regards,

            Myakka Technologies, Inc.


            Sunday, February 11, 2018, 10:24:30 PM, you wrote:

                 I'm looking at rural areas (like a few houses per mile).  As 
I'm looking at hypothetical power budgets for PON, I'm finding that if I run 
the line down the road and put splitters on the pole I can split 5-6 times and 
then I'm getting too low on db to keep going down the road.  At 5 or so houses 
per port, a 1U, 8 port ONT is no denser than a 1U switch.

                  Your stated reasons for PON are all correct.  The numbers 
just aren't seeming to work out for me.

                  I also figure if I install enough fibers for AE, I can still 
switch to PON some day if I want to.

                  We would never max out the PON port, but looking back on the 
past 15 years of growth in consumption I wonder if I should ever say "never". 
In AE I can put 100Gig in every house if I have to.  I'll "never" have to do 
that as far as I can imagine, but my imagination could be limited.


                  ------ Original Message ------
                  From: "Josh Reynolds" <>
                  Sent: 2/11/2018 9:28:34 PM
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

                       A few reasons...

                        Port cost is still fairly high.

                        More splicing.

                        More fiber required.

                        Larger chassis required.

                        More power required.

                        More battery backup required.

                        Consumers not even close to using up 1-2 generations 
back of PON capacity in most places.

                        On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
<> wrote:

                             So, why do PON and not active in these super cheap 
optics days?

                              From: Chuck Hogg
                              Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:10 PM
                              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

                              We are walking away from them and Alphion...I 
think Mark's product with Zhone is different.


                              On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett 
<> wrote:

                                 I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from 
DASAN...  or maybe it was DASAN that rescued them from the one they walked far 
away form. I don't remember which.  ;-)

                                Mike Hammett
                                Intelligent Computing Solutions

                                Midwest Internet Exchange

                                The Brothers WISP

                                From: "Jason McKemie" 
                                Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:35:53 PM
                                Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

                                In light of finding out that Calix's offering 
is not going to be anywhere near within budget, does anyone else have any other 

                                I found these guys, but have never heard of 

                                It looks like DASAN also has an option - I've 
at least heard of them:


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