Chuck, don't forget to look at the GPON SFP OLT's available.... probably cheaper, easier and more efficient than AE these days?
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I called Mr. Google at home once, at first they wouldn’t let me talk to > him but I explained that our DNS was very slow, finally his housekeeper > took the wireless phone out to the pool and he took a few minutes to listen > to me. I wasn’t sure he was really listening to my bitching but it started > working later in the day. So I guess he asked someone to look at it. I > think I still have that matchbook with his number in it... > > *From:* Dennis Burgess > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 3:35 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > > I would not state that 8.8.8.8 or any of the public DNS servers out there > that state that you can use their DNS servers are bad. However, think of > these two issues: > > > > 1. What happens when that DNS server returns answers (still > responds), just it takes 6000 ms to do so. ? Who do you contact? > > 2. If you are not paying for it, then what kind of influence can > you have on it? I look at Google. Is google within your circle of > influence? No? You can’t pick up the phone and call them, you can barely > find an e-mail to email them? And even if you could call them, you are > not paying them anything, why do they care what is occurring? They don’t! > > > > DNS is a required function to work on-line, simple as that, if its slow, > etc., then it’s your service that’s slow not the DNS servers, hence, why > you need a fast responding DNS server. > > > > In this case, using your upstream and caching at the MT is most likely > fine and if you wish to put on a full blown DNS server, then you can do so > at minimal cost, but don’t use something that you can’t influence. I can > tell people how many times I have found issues with DNS that they don’t own > or control; and have little to say about how it operates.. Its wayyy to > often. > > > > > > Dennis Burgess > > www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <(314)%20735-0270> – > dmburg...@linktechs.net > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 3:10 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > > > I think that was me you asked about those three items. > > > > AND we still use 8.8.8.8 DNS resolvers. > > > > I know, it’s bad, but one of my upstreams is directly on Google CDN so it > ‘applies’. > > > > I do like redundancy though. > > > > So if you use one CCR, get two of them for your project, they are > relatively cheap. > > > > With fiber you really don’t need the extra servers for bandwidth shaping, > I just shape at the CPE or switch port. > > > > So in one cabinet you put say a 144 count panel and splice on, then get a > SFP switch and two CCR routers. > > I have used the 1036 CCR in some areas to start, and a pair of those > running VRRP between them works great. > > Plug both into 10Gbps SFP+ ports on the switch/switches and you have > ‘standard’ redundancy. > > > > Meaning you can bring in two 10Gbps links, one to each of the CCR units, > and have redundant SFP+ links to the switch bank as well. > > > > They have more than enough horse power to run DHCP, NAT, DNS etc between > them to fill the duties for the cabinet/site. > > > > Get a UPS, I use Alpha, and four batteries on it should work well. > > > > Cabinet can be 20AMP and run plenty of switches on that. > > > > I also buy an AC unit and attach it to the side of the cabinet. > > > > I put some monitoring in there on a separate managed network to keep track > of power and heat/temp and track the switches/CPE’s etc. > > > > That’s about it. > > > > Rinse, repeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 1:02 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > > > Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... > > > > *From:* Chuck McCown > > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > > > Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred > or so homes. > > I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area. It will require > some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some level of > expertise. > > > > Considering a minimal NOC build. > > > > I asked this question of someone once before and I cannot find their > answer. Not sure if asked on the list or not. But the answer went > something like this: > > > > 1. Buy a big CCR. > 2. Hire Linktechs to configure it. > 3. Put in a big switch for the AE SFPs and rock and roll. > > > > I am sure I would need at least one server. DHCP, NAT, DNS? > > But can all of that be provided by the CCR? > > > > What is the smallest NOC configuration that could be created? > > > > Batts, rectifier, cooling. > > > > I really could put all this in a cabinet on the corner of the street. > > > > > > >
