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On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:26 PM, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: > Chuck, don't forget to look at the GPON SFP OLT's available.... probably > cheaper, easier and more efficient than AE these days? > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I called Mr. Google at home once, at first they wouldn’t let me talk to >> him but I explained that our DNS was very slow, finally his housekeeper >> took the wireless phone out to the pool and he took a few minutes to listen >> to me. I wasn’t sure he was really listening to my bitching but it started >> working later in the day. So I guess he asked someone to look at it. I >> think I still have that matchbook with his number in it... >> >> *From:* Dennis Burgess >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 3:35 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box >> >> >> I would not state that 8.8.8.8 or any of the public DNS servers out there >> that state that you can use their DNS servers are bad. However, think of >> these two issues: >> >> >> >> 1. What happens when that DNS server returns answers (still >> responds), just it takes 6000 ms to do so. ? Who do you contact? >> >> 2. If you are not paying for it, then what kind of influence can >> you have on it? I look at Google. Is google within your circle of >> influence? No? You can’t pick up the phone and call them, you can barely >> find an e-mail to email them? And even if you could call them, you are >> not paying them anything, why do they care what is occurring? They don’t! >> >> >> >> DNS is a required function to work on-line, simple as that, if its slow, >> etc., then it’s your service that’s slow not the DNS servers, hence, why >> you need a fast responding DNS server. >> >> >> >> In this case, using your upstream and caching at the MT is most likely >> fine and if you wish to put on a full blown DNS server, then you can do so >> at minimal cost, but don’t use something that you can’t influence. I can >> tell people how many times I have found issues with DNS that they don’t own >> or control; and have little to say about how it operates.. Its wayyy to >> often. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dennis Burgess >> >> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <(314)%20735-0270> – >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 3:10 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box >> >> >> >> I think that was me you asked about those three items. >> >> >> >> AND we still use 8.8.8.8 DNS resolvers. >> >> >> >> I know, it’s bad, but one of my upstreams is directly on Google CDN so it >> ‘applies’. >> >> >> >> I do like redundancy though. >> >> >> >> So if you use one CCR, get two of them for your project, they are >> relatively cheap. >> >> >> >> With fiber you really don’t need the extra servers for bandwidth shaping, >> I just shape at the CPE or switch port. >> >> >> >> So in one cabinet you put say a 144 count panel and splice on, then get a >> SFP switch and two CCR routers. >> >> I have used the 1036 CCR in some areas to start, and a pair of those >> running VRRP between them works great. >> >> Plug both into 10Gbps SFP+ ports on the switch/switches and you have >> ‘standard’ redundancy. >> >> >> >> Meaning you can bring in two 10Gbps links, one to each of the CCR units, >> and have redundant SFP+ links to the switch bank as well. >> >> >> >> They have more than enough horse power to run DHCP, NAT, DNS etc between >> them to fill the duties for the cabinet/site. >> >> >> >> Get a UPS, I use Alpha, and four batteries on it should work well. >> >> >> >> Cabinet can be 20AMP and run plenty of switches on that. >> >> >> >> I also buy an AC unit and attach it to the side of the cabinet. >> >> >> >> I put some monitoring in there on a separate managed network to keep >> track of power and heat/temp and track the switches/CPE’s etc. >> >> >> >> That’s about it. >> >> >> >> Rinse, repeat. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 1:02 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box >> >> >> >> Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... >> >> >> >> *From:* Chuck McCown >> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ISP in a box >> >> >> >> Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred >> or so homes. >> >> I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area. It will require >> some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some level of >> expertise. >> >> >> >> Considering a minimal NOC build. >> >> >> >> I asked this question of someone once before and I cannot find their >> answer. Not sure if asked on the list or not. But the answer went >> something like this: >> >> >> >> 1. Buy a big CCR. >> 2. Hire Linktechs to configure it. >> 3. Put in a big switch for the AE SFPs and rock and roll. >> >> >> >> I am sure I would need at least one server. DHCP, NAT, DNS? >> >> But can all of that be provided by the CCR? >> >> >> >> What is the smallest NOC configuration that could be created? >> >> >> >> Batts, rectifier, cooling. >> >> >> >> I really could put all this in a cabinet on the corner of the street. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
